Skrŭt 3

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1 (f) [0:00] There’s nothing else. What can I tell you? That’s it.

drùgo

other sg n adj

exist pres neg

what interr

comp

dat 2sg clt

say 1sg pres I

this sg n adj

3sg pres cop clt

2 (GK) Oh, there are things you can tell me, but –

disc

exist pres

what interr

comp

dat 1sg clt

say 2sg pres I

but

3 (f) [0:04] Well, what should I tell you?

disc

what interr

comp

dat 2sg clt

say 1sg pres I

4 (GK) Well, you can tell me about holidays,

disc

for

holiday m

can pres imprs

comp

dat 1sg clt

say 2sg pres I

5 (GK) [about] how you [celebrated] St. Basil’s day, [or] St. Iordan’s day …

how interr

2pl pres aux clt

St.Basil's.day sg m

Epiphany sg m

6 (f) [0:09] Well, like now!

disc

now adv

7 (GK) … [or] Christmas …

božìk

Christmas sg m

Божич

8 (f) [0:11] For Christmas …

božìk

Christmas sg m

Божич

9 (GK) ... and –

and

па

10 (f) [0:12] Back then was like now. [For] Christmas, we make – on Christmas Eve we –

and

then adv

now adv

Christmas sg m

Christmas.Eve sg m

dat refl clt

make 1pl pres I

11 (f) [0:17] In the morning someone slaughters a pig, some on the first day,

morning sg f def

which sg m interr

slaughter 3sg pres I

pig sg n def

which sg m interr

first sg m def adj

day sg m

12 (f) [0:20] some on the second day. And they do the fast – back then we fasted

which sg m interr

second sg m def adj

day sg m

fast sg f def

dat refl clt

fast 3pl pres I

then adv

fast 1pl impf I

13 (f) [0:24] the entire fast period: we didn’t eat any fat. On Christmas we’ll break the fast.

whole sg f adj

fast sg f

non.lenten sg n adj

neg

eat 1pl impf I

Christmas sg m

fut

acc refl clt

break.fast 1pl pres P

омърся

14 (f) [0:31] We’ll wait till we get back from church, and then [with] whatever’s in the house,

fut

wait 1pl pres I

comp

come 1pl pres P

from

church sg f

and

what rel

exist pres

at.home adv

15 (f) [0:36] we’ll make a dish with fat in it. Then it’s time to slaughter a pig.

fut

make 1pl pres P

food sg n

non.lenten sg n adj

something sg n

and

fut

hort

pig sg n def

fut

acc refl clt

slaughter 3sg pres P

16 (f) [0:39] And then we’ll break the fast. Before that [you eat] whatever there is, beans and such –

and

then adv

fut

acc refl clt

break.fast 1pl pres P

then adv

what rel

pres exist

beans sg m

such pl adj

thing pl f

17 (f) [0:44] that’s what you eat. No eating whatever, [as they do] now. We fast for Easter.

this sg n adj

acc refl clt

eat 3sg pres I

break.fast vbl.n I

exist impf neg

now adv

[...]

for

Easter sg m

fut

fast 1pl pres P

18 (f) [0:49] We would keep the entire fast. On Easter [Sunday] when we come back from church,

whole sg f adj

fast sg f

fast 1pl impf I

Easter sg m

when conj

fut

come 3sg pres P

and

from

от

cɤ̀rkva

church sg f

църква

19 (f) [0:54] mother will give each of us an egg.

and

fut

dat 1pl clt

give 3sg pres P

mother f sg

dat 1pl clt

one sg n adj

egg sg n

20 (f) [0:56] We’ll go to church, and look [forward] to leaving church

fut

go 1pl pres P

church sg f

look 1pl pres I

comp

go.out 1pl pres P

from

church sg f def

21 (f) [0:59] so we can crack it, and eat it. [Then] we come home,

and

comp

acc n 3sg clt

crack 1pl pres P

comp

eat 1pl pres P

and

fut

come 1pl pres P

home adv

22 (f) [1:03] [and] mother will fry us a pan of eggs [laughter] – and what’s left [of]

mother f sg

fut

dat 1pl clt

fry 3sg pres P

one sg m adj

pan sg m

egg pl n

what rel

3sg pres aux clt

remain sg n L.part P

23 (f) [1:07] pork meat chunks. We’ll have dinner, and “Let’s go to the Easter [celebration].”

chunk pl f

pork pl adj

fut

dine 1pl pres I

and

hort

Easter sg m def

24 (f) [1:13] [There’s] dancing and a party; they do this on the first day, the second day, the third –

round.dance sg n

party sg m

make 3pl pres I

first sg m def adj

day sg m

second sg m def adj

day sg m

third sg m def adj

25 (f) [1:19] everybody came out. But now they don’t do such things [any more].

all adv

dat refl clt

emerge 1pl impf I

but

now adv

pres neg exist

such pl adj

thing pl f

26 (f) [1:22] People don’t even know when Easter is, or Christmas. Whenever anyone finds [something],

neither

Easter sg m

acc refl clt

know 3sg pres I

when interr

3sg pres cop clt

neither

Christmas sg m

which sg m interr

when inter.rel

find 3sg pres P

27 (f) [1:28] he eats it right then – meat and eggs and everything. But back then it was –

then adv

eat 3sg pres I

and

chunk pl f

and

egg pl n

and

everything sg n adj

then adv

3sg impf cop

28 (f) [1:32] The fast of the Holy Virgin is coming, and then St. Peter’s – we did the entire fast.

buguròičina

Holy.Virgin's sg f adj

fast sg f

fut

come 3sg pres P

and

thus adv

St.Peter's sg f def adj

fast sg f

whole sg f adj

fast sg f

fast 1pl impf I

29 (f) [1:37] The entire fast. For St. Peter’s day, we’ll fry curds or whatever there is, and then

whole sg f adj

fast sg f

St.Peter's.day sg m

fut

fry 1pl pres P

curd sg f

something sg n

what rel

pres exist

then adv

30 (f) [1:44] we’ll break the fast [after] the entire St. Peter’s fast. Then comes the Holy Virgin fast,

fut

acc refl clt

break.fast 1pl pres P

whole sg f def adj

St.Peter's sg f def adj

fast sg f

Holy.Virgin's sg f def adj

fut

come 3sg pres P

31 (f) [1:47] and the same again. [But] what now? Now we don’t know anything.

and

thus adv

now adv

what interr

now adv

neg

know 1pl pres I

nothing sg n

32 (f) [1:50] Anything goes. People [eat] whatever they find [whenever they want].

in.order adv

3sg pres cop clt

everything sg n adj

which sg m interr

when inter.rel

find 3sg pres P

33 (GK) The young people don’t know. [But] you [all] can keep [the fasts].

young pl def adj

neg

know 3pl pres I

nom 2pl

can pres imprs

comp

keep 2pl pres I

34 (f) [1:56] Some people still keep [the fasts], but rarely. If you keep one, another won’t keep it,

some pl adj

still adv

keep 3pl pres I

somewhere adv

but

rarely adv

nom 2sg

if conj

keep 2sg pres I

other sg m def adj

neg

keep 3sg pres I

35 (f) [2:01] and so on. But back then [it was a] family [affair]. All fasts kept, [by] the entire family.

and

thus adv

but

then adv

family adv

everything sg n adj

acc refl clt

fast 3sg pres I

everything sg n def adj

всичко

semèjstvo

family sg n

семейство

36 (f) [2:06] Then on Shrovetide we have supper [together] – banitsa, meat was prepared.

then adv

Shrovetide pl.t

sup 1pl pres I

banitsa pl f

meat sg n

acc refl clt

3sg pres aux clt

cook sg n L.part P

37 (f) [2:12] Any leftovers went to the animals, either the pig

rel

acc refl clt

3sg pres cop clt

what rel

remain 3sg pres P

pig sg n def

interr clt

3sg pres cop clt

38 (f) [2:15] or the chickens. Then we wash the pans, with ash – there was no detergent powder then.

hen pl f

interr clt

3sg pres cop clt

wash 1pl pres P

dish pl f def

then adv

exist impf neg

powder sg m

with

ash sg f

39 (f) [2:20] And we fast, at Chr-, at Easter– no, at Christmas. And otherwise nothing.

fast 1pl pres I

[...]

Easter sg m

disc

Christmas sg m

otherwise adv

pres neg exist

40 (f) [2:27] [Just] beans, “papuda”, dried plums. No sugar. Sour or not, crumble [it] and eat!

beans sg m

mung.beans sg f

dry pl P.part I

plum pl f

sugar sg f

pres neg exist

sour pl adj

not

sour pl adj

crumble sg imv I

eat sg imv I

41 (g) [2:33] Do you know what “papuda” (mung beans) is?

mung.beans sg f

know 2sg pres I

interr clt

what sg n interr

3sg pres cop clt

42 (GK) No,

не

43 (f) [2:36] Ah.

əh

bkch

44 (GK) what is that, “papuda”?

what interr

3sg pres cop clt

this sg n adj

mung.beans sg f

45 (g) [2:37] Granny, go get some for him so he can cook one of -

grandmother voc sg f

hort

get sg imv P

dat m 3sg clt

give sg imv P

dat m 3sg clt

comp

dat refl clt

cook 3sg pres P

one sg n adj

from

46 (f) [2:39] There isn’t [any] here, I don’t have [any].

pres neg exist

here adv

nom 1sg

not.have 1sg pres I

47 (g) [2:40] You don’t?

nèmaš

not.have 2sg pres I

нямам

interr clt

ли

48 (GK) Is it perhaps “oshaf” (dried fruit)?

comp

neg

3sg pres cop clt

dried.fruit sg m

this sg n adj

49 (f) [2:41] I – [well, you] see –

nom 1sg

see sg imv P

50 (g) [2:42] It’s rather like lentils –

this sg n adj

3sg pres cop clt

lentil sg f def

however adv

51 (GK) Ah, ah.

bkch

52 (f) [2:44] Well, it’s what people look for in the cities. They buy these mung beans …

hes

[...]

rel

acc n 3sg clt

search 3pl pres I

city pl n def

buy 3pl pres I

acc n 3sg clt

mung.beans sg f

53 (g) [2:48] Mung beans with leeks – [that] is very nice.

mung.beans sg f

with

leek sg m

very adv

3sg pres cop clt

nice sg m adj

54 (f) [2:49] … a lot.

nògu

much adv

много

55 (GK) Ah, is it something like white beans?

disc

this sg n adj

white sg m adj

beans sg m

something sg n

interr clt

56 (g) [2:52] You’ve never eaten [any]?

neg

2sg pres aux clt

interr clt

eat sg m L.part I

nom 2sg

57 (GK) No. No, no, I’ve never even heard the word.

even adv

and

word sg f def

neg

1sg pres aux clt

hear sg m L.part I

58 (f) [2:55] Oh! [laughter] “papuda”

excl

papùda

mung.beans sg f

папуда

59 (g) [2:57] You find it here in Macedonia, more or less just around here.

this sg n adj

acc n 3sg clt

pres exist

here adv

Macedonia sg f place

only adv

here adv

more.or.less adv

60 (f) [3:00] These people have planted it, higher up near those – near Latinkevo, and –

here adv

have 3pl pres I

plant sg m P.part I

this pl adj

above adv

toward

this pl adj

toward

Latinkevo sg n place

and

61 (GK) Aha. So – Shrovetide. What is Shrovetide?

disc

disc

Shrovetide pl.t def

what sg n interr

3sg pres cop clt

Shrovetide pl.t

62 (f) [3:07] Shrovetide – we start the fast for Chr- for Christmas. From that day on one’s already

Shrovetide pl.t

fast 1pl pres I

for

[...]

for

Christmas sg m

this sg m adj

day sg m

after adv

now adv

acc refl clt

already adv

63 (f) [3:13] started to fast for Christmas [for] how [ever] much time the fast is.

today adv

fast 3sg pres I

acc refl clt

for

Christmas sg m

how.much interr

time sg n

acc refl clt

fast 3sg pres I

64 (f) [3:17] That night we make banitsa, we fry up [meat] – people slaughter a rooster

this sg f adj

evening sg f

fut

make 1pl pres P

banitsa sg f

fry 1pl pres P

rooster sg m

interr clt

fut

slaughter 3pl pres P

65 (f) [3:22] or something so as to have meat, so as to start the fast, the Shrovetide observance.

something sg n

comp

pres exist

meat sg n

comp

acc refl clt

fast 3sg pres I

Shrovetide pl.t

66 (f) [3:25] And we’ll start the fast. At Christmas we start it then. And at Easter

and

fut

fast 1pl pres P

Christmas sg m

then adv

acc 3pl clt

catch 1pl pres P

for

Easter sg m

67 (f) [3:31] there’s Shrovetide again, and we start the fast. One week we have “white cheese fast”

again adv

Shrovetide pl.t

fast 1pl pres I

one f sg adj

week sg f

fast 1pl pres I

from

cheese sg n def

68 (f) [3:37] – we eat white cheese, without any meat. We call that “cheese week”.

this sg n adj

from

hes

cheese sg n

eat 1pl pres I

without

chunk pl f

cheese sg f adj

week sg f

acc n 3sg clt

call 1pl pres I

69 (f) [3:43] The next week – the next one already, we begin to fast, abstaining from everything,

other sg f def adj

week sg f

other sg f def adj

already adv

fast 3sg pres I

acc refl clt

from

everything sg n adj

70 (f) [3:47] and on Easter – Fry up those eggs! Eat then! [laughter]

and

Easter sg m

fry sg imv I

egg pl n

eat sg imv I

then adv

71 (g) [3:53] Given that there were [any] eggs, [that is].

since conj

3sg pres aux clt

L.part exist

egg pl n

72 (f) [3:57] That’s how it was.

[...]

[...]

such sg n adj

3sg impf cop

73 (GK) And the mummers? When did they do [that]?

and

mummer pl m

when interr

acc refl clt

do 3pl impf I

74 (f) [4:00] The mummers – at “suruva” (New Year’s).

mummer pl m

new.year sg f

75 (GK) Ah, at “suruva”.

disc

new.year sg f

76 (f) [4:03] The children go out, and they’ll make these long clubs

child pl n def

go 3pl pres I

hes

fut

make 3pl pres P

such pl adj

club pl f

long pl adj

77 (f) [4:07] – they made them with this big ring on top. And they’ll come and sing

in.front adv

with

disc

ring pl n

make 3pl impf I

and

fut

come 3pl pres P

fut

sing 3pl pres I

78 (f) [4:10] and dance, and you’ll throw them some embers, a burnt log [from] the fire, and

fut

dance 3pl pres I

fut

dat m 3sg clt

throw 2sg pres P

one pl adj

ember pl m

one sg f adj

firebrand sg f

fire sg m

and

79 (f) [4:14] they’ll shuck and grate a small ear of corn and such

comp

such disc

one sg f adj

small sg f adj

corn sg f

fut

shuck 3pl pres I

fut

do 3pl pres I

80 (f) [4:18] and you’ll give them whatever you have, and they’ll get up and leave;

what rel

pres exist

fut

acc n 3sg clt

gift 2sg pres I

fut

stand 3sg pres P

fut

dat refl clt

go.out 3sg pres P

81 (f) [4:22] another group will come after them. And in the morning the mummers dress up

acc 3pl

other sg f adj

group sg f

come 3pl pres P

and

morning sg f def

mummer pl m

make 3pl pres I

acc refl clt

82 (f) [4:26] in all sorts of ways, and dance, and beg. [But] now they don’t beg, to tell you the truth.

and

all.kind pl adj

thus disc

dance 3pl pres I

beg 3pl pres I

now adv

neg

beg 3pl pres I

comp

dat 2sg clt

acc n 3sg clt

say 1sg pres P

83 (GK) Well, [I’m not asking] about begging. But don’t the mummers do something here?

disc

for

beg vbl.n I

not

but

mummer pl m

neg

become 3pl pres I

interr clt

here adv

84 (f) [4:33] They do! The mummers here on the square, they’ll dance and make merry,

make 3pl pres I

mummer pl m

but

there adv

square sg m def

fut

dance 3pl pres I

fut

make.merry 3pl pres I

веселя

85 (f) [4:38] and then they’ll go down the road to another square and – Let’s go!

road sg m def

fut

go 3pl pres I

other sg m def adj

square sg m def

and

hort

86 (GK) In the old days who could become a mummer?

and

one sg n adj

time sg n

who pl interr

become 3pl impf I

mummer pl m

87 (f) [4:43] The youth! Young people, and old too were mummers, with bells, with skins –

youth pl m def

youth pl m

and

old pl adj

acc refl clt

make 3pl impf I

with

mummer pl m def

with

bell pl m

with

skin pl f

88 (GK) Children too, or not? Only youths?

and

child pl n def

not

only adv

youth pl m

89 (f) [4:49] The children went out on the New Year’s “surva”. The little ones didn’t,

and

child pl n def

go 3pl impf I

new.year sg f

neg

acc refl clt

make 3pl impf I

little pl adj

90 (f) [4:55] but now they do as well.

now adv

acc refl clt

do 3pl pres I

disc

such pl adj

91 (GK) Aha.

əxə

bkch

аха

92 (f) [4:58] The little ones. But back then only the older ones.

small pl adj

but

then adv

only adv

old def pl adj

acc refl clt

93 (GK) [4:58] The bigger ones …

big pl adj

94 (f) [5:01] Only [them].

sàmo

only adv

само

95 (GK) … those ones.

takìva

such pl adj

такъв

96 (f) [5:02] Aha, the more grown-up ones.

disc

adult pl adj

97 (GK) The more grown up ones [did] that.

adult pl adj

acc refl clt

do.such 3sg pres I

98 (f) [5:05] That’s it. That’s what I know. I don’t know any more.

this sg n adj

3sg pres cop clt

this sg n adj

know 1sg pres I

other sg n adj

neg

know 1sg pres I

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1 (f) [0:00] There’s nothing else. What can I tell you? That’s it.

2 (GK) Oh, there are things you can tell me, but –

3 (f) [0:04] Well, what should I tell you?

4 (GK) Well, you can tell me about holidays,

5 (GK) [about] how you [celebrated] St. Basil’s day, [or] St. Iordan’s day …

6 (f) [0:09] Well, like now!

7 (GK) … [or] Christmas …

8 (f) [0:11] For Christmas …

9 (GK) ... and –

10 (f) [0:12] Back then was like now. [For] Christmas, we make – on Christmas Eve we –

11 (f) [0:17] In the morning someone slaughters a pig, some on the first day,

12 (f) [0:20] some on the second day. And they do the fast – back then we fasted

13 (f) [0:24] the entire fast period: we didn’t eat any fat. On Christmas we’ll break the fast.

14 (f) [0:31] We’ll wait till we get back from church, and then [with] whatever’s in the house,

15 (f) [0:36] we’ll make a dish with fat in it. Then it’s time to slaughter a pig.

16 (f) [0:39] And then we’ll break the fast. Before that [you eat] whatever there is, beans and such –

17 (f) [0:44] that’s what you eat. No eating whatever, [as they do] now. We fast for Easter.

18 (f) [0:49] We would keep the entire fast. On Easter [Sunday] when we come back from church,

19 (f) [0:54] mother will give each of us an egg.

20 (f) [0:56] We’ll go to church, and look [forward] to leaving church

21 (f) [0:59] so we can crack it, and eat it. [Then] we come home,

22 (f) [1:03] [and] mother will fry us a pan of eggs [laughter] – and what’s left [of]

23 (f) [1:07] pork meat chunks. We’ll have dinner, and “Let’s go to the Easter [celebration].”

24 (f) [1:13] [There’s] dancing and a party; they do this on the first day, the second day, the third –

25 (f) [1:19] everybody came out. But now they don’t do such things [any more].

26 (f) [1:22] People don’t even know when Easter is, or Christmas. Whenever anyone finds [something],

27 (f) [1:28] he eats it right then – meat and eggs and everything. But back then it was –

28 (f) [1:32] The fast of the Holy Virgin is coming, and then St. Peter’s – we did the entire fast.

29 (f) [1:37] The entire fast. For St. Peter’s day, we’ll fry curds or whatever there is, and then

30 (f) [1:44] we’ll break the fast [after] the entire St. Peter’s fast. Then comes the Holy Virgin fast,

31 (f) [1:47] and the same again. [But] what now? Now we don’t know anything.

32 (f) [1:50] Anything goes. People [eat] whatever they find [whenever they want].

33 (GK) The young people don’t know. [But] you [all] can keep [the fasts].

34 (f) [1:56] Some people still keep [the fasts], but rarely. If you keep one, another won’t keep it,

35 (f) [2:01] and so on. But back then [it was a] family [affair]. All fasts kept, [by] the entire family.

36 (f) [2:06] Then on Shrovetide we have supper [together] – banitsa, meat was prepared.

37 (f) [2:12] Any leftovers went to the animals, either the pig

38 (f) [2:15] or the chickens. Then we wash the pans, with ash – there was no detergent powder then.

39 (f) [2:20] And we fast, at Chr-, at Easter– no, at Christmas. And otherwise nothing.

40 (f) [2:27] [Just] beans, “papuda”, dried plums. No sugar. Sour or not, crumble [it] and eat!

41 (g) [2:33] Do you know what “papuda” (mung beans) is?

42 (GK) No,

43 (f) [2:36] Ah.

44 (GK) what is that, “papuda”?

45 (g) [2:37] Granny, go get some for him so he can cook one of -

46 (f) [2:39] There isn’t [any] here, I don’t have [any].

47 (g) [2:40] You don’t?

48 (GK) Is it perhaps “oshaf” (dried fruit)?

49 (f) [2:41] I – [well, you] see –

50 (g) [2:42] It’s rather like lentils –

51 (GK) Ah, ah.

52 (f) [2:44] Well, it’s what people look for in the cities. They buy these mung beans …

53 (g) [2:48] Mung beans with leeks – [that] is very nice.

54 (f) [2:49] … a lot.

55 (GK) Ah, is it something like white beans?

56 (g) [2:52] You’ve never eaten [any]?

57 (GK) No. No, no, I’ve never even heard the word.

58 (f) [2:55] Oh! [laughter] “papuda”

59 (g) [2:57] You find it here in Macedonia, more or less just around here.

60 (f) [3:00] These people have planted it, higher up near those – near Latinkevo, and –

61 (GK) Aha. So – Shrovetide. What is Shrovetide?

62 (f) [3:07] Shrovetide – we start the fast for Chr- for Christmas. From that day on one’s already

63 (f) [3:13] started to fast for Christmas [for] how [ever] much time the fast is.

64 (f) [3:17] That night we make banitsa, we fry up [meat] – people slaughter a rooster

65 (f) [3:22] or something so as to have meat, so as to start the fast, the Shrovetide observance.

66 (f) [3:25] And we’ll start the fast. At Christmas we start it then. And at Easter

67 (f) [3:31] there’s Shrovetide again, and we start the fast. One week we have “white cheese fast”

68 (f) [3:37] – we eat white cheese, without any meat. We call that “cheese week”.

69 (f) [3:43] The next week – the next one already, we begin to fast, abstaining from everything,

70 (f) [3:47] and on Easter – Fry up those eggs! Eat then! [laughter]

71 (g) [3:53] Given that there were [any] eggs, [that is].

72 (f) [3:57] That’s how it was.