Ronelle Alexander
Kruševo 3
1 (RA) And did you used to weave?
and | weave sg f L.part.impf I | interr clt | 2sg pres aux clt |
2 (a) [0:03] Well, yes, I wove. How [could I not]?
disc | weave sg f L.part I | 1sg pres aux clt | disc | how interr |
3 (RA) Ah.
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4 (a) [0:05] We weave, we knit –
weave 1pl pres I | knit 1pl pres I |
5 (RA) Do you still weave?
all | still adv | interr clt | weave 2sg pres I |
6 (a) [0:07] I still [do].
and | still adv | disc |
7 (RA) Yes? And on what?
thus adv | interr clt | on | on | what sg n interr |
8 (a) [0:11] On a loom.
on | loom sg m |
9 (RA) On a loom. How – is it big? Tell me what the loom is like? What are its parts?
on | loom sg m | how interr | big sg m adj | interr clt | 3sg pres cop clt | say sg imv P | how interr | 3sg pres cop clt | loom sg m def | what.kind pl adj | 3pl pres cop clt | part pl f |
10 (a) [0:16] Well [yes], it’s big.
disc | big sg m adj | 3sg pres cop clt |
11 (RA) Ah?
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12 (a) [0:18] [There’s] the heddle,
heddle pl.t |
13 (RA) Ah?
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14 (a) [0:19] the battens,
battens pl.t |
15 (RA) Ah?
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16 (a) [0:21] and the foot pedals. And you weave!
and | foot pedals pl f | and | weave 2sg pres I |
17 (RA) Well, but tell me [how], since I’ve never seen.
disc | say sg imv P | dat 1sg clt | no | because | neg | 1sg pres aux clt | see sg f L.part I |
18 (a) [0:27] Well, my loom isn’t set up. If you’d come last year, [when]
disc | neg | dat 1sg clt | 3sg pres cop clt | place sg m P.part I | loom sg m def | last year adv | comp | 3sg impf aux | come sg f L.part P |
19 (a) [0:30] the loom was ready [to go], I could have gone in [the house] …
3sg impf cop | loom sg m def | ready sg m adj | fut.pst | enter 1sg pres P |
20 (RA) Ah?
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21 (a) [0:31] … to show [it] to you.
comp | dat 2sg clt | show 1sg pres P |
22 (RA) So tell me. (answer shows confusion of “tell” and “show” in dialect meanings)
disc | disc | tell sg imv P |
23 (a) [0:34] But my loom isn’t set up now.
now adv | neg | dat 1sg clt | 3sg pres cop clt | [...] | [...] | set.up sg m P.part P | loom sg m def |
24 (RA) Uh huh.
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25 (a) [0:36] I’ll be setting it up later.
fut | acc m 3sg clt | set.up 1sg pres P | but | more | beyond adv |
26 (RA) Uh huh, uh huh.
disc | disc |
27 (a) [0:38] Now when we finish the picking, I’ll set up the loom,
disc | now adv | when conj | gather 1pl pres P | fut | acc m 3sg clt | set.up 1sg pres P | and | loom sg m def |
28 (a) [0:41] and I’ll weave. We’ll go and we’ll card the wool,
and | fut | weave 1sg pres I | fut | go 1pl pres P | fut | card 1pl pres P | wool sg f def |
29 (RA) Mm.
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30 (a) [0:45] They’ll spin it. They do the spinning there.
fut | acc f 3sg clt | spin 3pl pres P | and | there adv | dat refl clt | spin 3pl pres P |
31 (a) [0:46] I used to spin it all here in years past but now
nom f 3sg | here adv | dat refl clt | acc f 3sg clt | spin 1sg impf I | all adv | that pl dist adj | year pl f | but | already adv |
32 (a) [0:48] my shoulders hurt, and now ...
acc 1sg clt | hurt 3pl pres I | shoulder pl f def | and | now adv |
33 (RA) Hm.
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34 (a) [0:50] ... we’ll spin it on the carders.
fut | acc f 3sg clt | spin 1pl pres I | there adv | at | carder pl m def |
35 (RA) Mmhm, mmhm.
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36 (a) [0:52] And then we’ll bring it here
and | fut | acc f 3sg clt | bring 1pl pres P | here adv |
37 (RA) Uh huh.
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38 (a) [0:54] and weave it up, so as to have fabric. [laughter]
fut | acc f 3sg clt | weave 1sg pres P | comp | acc refl clt | find 3sg pres P | weave sg n P.part I |
39 (RA) [laughter]. And the wool?
and | wool sg f def |
40 (a) [1:01] We’re carding it now.
now adv | acc f 3sg clt | card 1pl pres I |
41 (RA) From the sheep.
from | sheep pl f def |
42 (a) [1:04] We washed it in the spring, and –
wash 1pl aor I | acc f 3sg clt | spring sg f | and |
43 (GK) Explain to her how you card, and how –
explain sg imv P | dat f 3sg clt | how interr | acc refl clt | card 3sg pres I | and | how interr | acc refl clt |
44 (GK) how you spin, how you tie [the wool] onto the distaff –
how interr | acc refl clt | spin 3sg pres I | there adv | how interr | tie 2sg pres I | wool.on.distaff sg f def |
45 (a) [1:12] Not on the distaff!
not at all adv | on | wool.on.distaff sg f |
46 (GK) Everything!
everything sg n adj |
47 (a) [1:13] [I use] a spinning wheel now. A spinning wheel already!
on | spinning wheel sg n | now adv | on | spinning.wheel sg m | already adv |
48 (GK) Explain it to her. Explain to her how it used to be for you.
explain sg imv P | dat f 3sg clt | explain sg imv P | dat f 3sg clt | how interr | dat 2sg clt | 3sg pres aux clt | sg n L.part cop |
49 (GK) Both the old and the new. Explain everything to her!
and | old sg n def adj | and | new sg n def adj | everything sg n def adj | dat f 3sg clt | explain sg imv P |
50 (a) [1:16] Not now, but earlier – the spindle on your knee, whirr!
not | now adv | more | before adv | on | spindle sg n | on | knee sg n def |
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51 (a) [1:22] And I’ll make the thread [that way].
and | thread sg f def | fut | acc f 3sg clt | make 1sg pres P |
52 (RA) Yes?
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53 (a) [1:24] I’ll twirl the spindle, and I’ll make it [like that].
fut | acc n 3sg clt | rotate 1sg pres P | spindle sg n def | and | fut | acc f 3sg clt | make 1sg pres P |
54 (a) [1:26] But now [I put it] on the spinning wheel. It revolves and gives out [thread]
and | and | now adv | on | spinning wheel sg n def | rotate sg imv I | and | release sg imv I |
55 (RA) Yeah.
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56 (a) [1:30] and it spins onto spools. It spins onto spools, and you’ll twist it
and | acc refl clt | spin 3pl pres P | spool pl f | spin 3pl pres P | acc refl clt | spool pl f def | and | fut | acc 3pl clt | bend 2sg pres P | interr clt |
57 (a) [1:35] as needed, as a single thread if you’re weaving a flat-weave rug,
from | one sg m adj | strand sg m | interr clt | as conj | if conj | weave 2sg pres I | kilim sg m | from | one sg m adj | strand sg m |
58 (RA) Ah.
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59 (a) [1:39] [or] as a double thread if you’re weaving a quilt.
if conj | weave 2sg pres I | hes | quilt sg n | from | two m | strand ct m |
60 (a) [1:43] You’ll wind it up and beat it,
fut | acc m 3sg clt | catch 2sg pres P | fut | acc m 3sg clt | spin 2sg pres P |
61 (RA) Mmhm.
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62 (a) [1:46] and then you’ll dye it, whatever [color] you want, if it’s white –
and | fut | acc m 3sg clt | dye 2sg pres P | already adv | what sg n interr | want 2sg pres I | if conj | 3sg pres cop clt | white sg n adj |
63 (RA) And do you do the dyeing?
and | nom 2sg | interr clt | acc 3pl clt | dye 2sg pres I |
64 (a) [1:52] Well, yes! I do.
disc | nom 1sg |
65 (RA) Mm.
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66 (a) [1:54] If you want, come to the house to see what things I’ve woven.
if conj | want 2sg pres I | comp | come 2sg pres P | home adv | comp | see 2sg pres P | what kind pl adj | weave pl P.part I | thing pl f | have 1sg pres I |
67 (RA) Well, I [would like] to see [them].
disc | comp | see 1sg pres P |
68 (a) [2:00] [unintelligible] [laughter]
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69 (RA) [laughter]
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70 (a) [2:02] Well, let’s go!
hort | adrs |
71 (RA) Really?
thus adv | interr clt |
72 (a) [2:08] I have lots of woven things, we have things woven as girls.
have 1sg pres I | and | weave sg n P.part I | much adv | weave sg n P.part I | of | girl sg f def | have 1pl pres I |
73 (RA) Yes, yes, yes, yes. But where do you get your dyes from?
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and | dye pl f | from.where adv | acc 3pl clt | take 2sg pres I |
74 (a) [2:13] From gypsy women.
from | Gypsy pl f def |
75 (RA) Is that right? And in the old days did they make them from herbs?
disc | thus adv | interr clt | and | one sg n adj | time sg n | make 3pl pres I | from | grass sg f | interr clt |
76 (a) [2:18] Earlier, from the store.
before adv | from | store sg m def | dat refl clt |
77 (RA) Only from the store.
only adv | from | store sg m def |
78 (a) [2:20] We used to buy them from the store.
from | store sg m def | dat refl clt | buy 1pl impf I |
79 (a) [2:22] I haven’t made [any] from herbs.
from | grass sg f def | neg | 1sg pres aux clt | make sg f L.part I |
80 (RA) Hm.
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81 (a) [2:24] But now we sometimes make dyes from walnuts.
disc | now adv | dye 1pl pres I | somewhere adv | from | walnut pl m |
82 (RA) Uh huh?
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83 (a) [2:27] We make dyes from walnuts, we make dyes from stones –
from | walnut pl m | dye 1pl pres I | from | stone sg m | dye 1pl pres I |
84 (RA) Hah!
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85 (a) [2:31] We pick lichens off of stones, and boil them up. We boil [them], and
from | stone sg m | pull 1pl pres I | lichen sg n adj | and | dat refl clt | acc n 3sg clt | boil 1pl pres I | boil 1pl pres I | and |
86 (a) [2:35] then we soak the yarn [in it] and you should see what a pretty color it gives!
later adv | soak 1pl pres I | yarn sg n def | and | comp | see 2sg pres P | what.kind sg m adj | pretty sg m adj | color sg m | become 3sg pres I |
87 (RA) Surely it’s very pretty.
disc | very adv | pretty sg m adj | surely adv |
88 (a) [2:40] Have you seen it?
nom 2sg | see sg f L.part P | interr clt | 2sg pres aux clt |
89 (RA) I’ve seen [it] in pictures.
disc | in | picture pl f def | see 1sg aor P |
90 (a) [2:43 ] Ah.
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91 (RA) In real life –
in | alive sg n adj |
92 (a) [2:44] Ah.
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93 (RA) in real life, it’s [much] nicer.
in | alive sg n adj | 3sg pres cop clt | more | nice sg n adj |
94 (a) [2:46] [Much] nicer. [Colors] from lichens, …
more | nice sg n adj | from | lichen sg n adj |
95 (RA) Ah, [yes].
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96 (a) [2:47] … from walnuts. We’d make those dyes. Otherwise we buy colors
from | walnut sg n adj | thus med adv | dye 1pl pres I | and | otherwise adv | dat refl clt | buy 1pl pres I | dye sg f |
97 (a) [2:52] from the store, and we buy them from gypsy women.
from | store pl m def | from | Gypsy pl f def | buy 1pl pres I |
98 (RA) Hm, hm.
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99 (a) [2:56] And there it is.
disc | thus med adv |
100 (RA) And do you have a lot of sheep?
and | sheep pl f def | many adv | interr clt | have 2sg pres I |
101 (a) [3:01 ] Now I have quite a few little sheep. I’ve got twenty sheep.
now adv | have 1sg pres I | many adv | dat refl clt | sheep pl f | twenty | sheep pl f | have 1sg pres I |
102 (RA) Aha.
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103 (a) [3:04] But we don’t have – we’ve [only] got a little hay, and we have to buy fodder –
but | not.have 1pl pres I | hay sg n def | dat 1pl clt | 3sg pres cop clt | little adv | fodder sg m | disc | and | buy 1pl pres I | acc m 3sg clt |
104 (a) [3:08] we spent all our money …
money pl.t def | dat refl clt | give 1pl aor P |
105 (RA) Mm.
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106 (a) [3:09] … on fodder, …
for | fodder pl m |
107 (RA) Mm.
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108 (a) [3:11] … and we’re not going to be able to get [them] through [the winter], …
and | fut neg | can 1pl pres I | comp | acc 3pl clt | get.through 1pl pres P |
109 (RA) And –
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110 (a) [3:14] … so we’re thinking of giving the sheep away – we’ll get rid of them.
and | think 1pl pres I | fut | acc 3pl clt | throw 1pl pres P | sheep pl f def | fut | acc 3pl clt | remove 1pl pres P |
111 (RA) Tsk. And in the old days were there more sheep?
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and | one sg n adj | time sg n | more adv | sheep pl f | pres exist | interr clt |
112 (a) [3:20] Back then there were more. Now the cooperative farm people came,
one sg n adj | time sg n | impf exist | more adv | now adv | cooperative.farm pl def adj | when conj | 3pl impf cop |
113 (a) [3:23] [and] they belonged to somebody else.
nom 3pl | foreign pl adj |
114 (RA) Aha!
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115 (a) [3:25] But in the old days we had even fewer.
and | and | one sg n adj | time sg n | dat refl clt | have 1pl impf I | even adv | more | little adv |
116 (a) [3:29] Now we’ve gathered up these few but we can’t keep them.
now adv | this pl med adj | thus med adv | gather.up 1pl aor P | acc 3pl clt | but | fut neg | acc 3pl clt | drive 1pl pres I |
117 (a) [3:33] And (besides) we’ve gotten old.
and | nom 1pl | age 1pl pres I | already adv |
118 (RA) Hm.
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119 (a) [3:35] We can’t take on all the trouble to run after them.
neg | acc refl clt | undertake 1pl pres I | comp | dat 3pl clt | do 3sg pres I | effort sg m | disc |
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run 1sg pres I | after | acc 3pl |
120 (RA) Tsk. Yes. So when do you shear sheep? When –
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disc | yes | and | when interr | acc refl clt | shear 3sg pres I | sheep pl f | by | when interr |
121 (RA) What time [of year]?
by | which sg n interr adj | time sg n |
122 (a) [3:43] Well, in the spring. We shear [them] around Mayday.
disc | in | spring sg f | acc refl clt | shear 3sg pres I | towards | first sg m adj | May sg m |
123 (RA) Mm?
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124 (a) [3:47] The sheep are shorn from Mayday on, [starting] around Mayday.
from | first sg m adj | May sg m | later adv | acc refl clt | shear 3pl pres I | sheep pl f def | towards | first sg m adj | May sg m |
125 (a) [3:51] When we begin to do the churning, at that point.
when inter.rel | churn 1pl pres P | then adv |
126 (RA) Mmhm.
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127 (a) [3:54] Mayday.
first sg m adj | May sg m |
128 (RA) And how do you shear [them]?
and | how interr | acc refl clt | shear 3sg pres I |
129 (a) [3:56] Well, you knock it down!
adrs | push sg imv P | acc f 3sg clt |
130 (RA) [and] hold [it] –
hold sg imv I |
131 (a) [3:57] You knock it down, and tie its legs
push sg imv P | acc f 3sg clt | tie sg imv P | dat f 3sg clt | leg pl f def |
132 (RA) Uh huh?
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133 (a) [4:00] Two [that is,] four legs, like this –
two f def | four def | leg pl f | ost | thus med adv |
134 (RA) ah,
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135 (a) [4:02] You tie them like this –
tie 2sg pres P | dat f 3sg clt | acc 3pl clt | ost | thus prox adv |
136 (RA) Ah.
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137 (a) [4:04] You tie up all four legs like this …
four def | leg pl f | thus med adv | fut | acc 3pl clt | tie 2sg pres P |
138 (RA) Uh huh.
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139 (a) [4:06] … here, with a rope –
here adv | with | small rope sg n |
140 (RA) Uh huh.
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141 (a) [4:08] And you throw it down and it’ll sit there quietly.
and | acc f 3sg clt | push 2sg pres P | and | nom f 3sg | fut | sit 3sg pres I | peacefully adv |
142 (a) [4:10] And you [do it] with – with shears
and | nom 2sg | with |
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with | shears pl.t |
143 (RA) With shears.
with | shears pl.t |
144 (a) [4:13] … you shear [it].
shear 2sg pres I |
145 (RA) Will it sit there quietly?
nom f 3sg | peacefully adv | interr clt | fut | sit 3sg pres I |
146 (a) [4:14] [Of course] it will, since it’s tied down!
fut | sit 3sg pres I | when conj | 3sg pres cop clt | tie sg f P.part P |
147 (RA) Well, yes –
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148 (a) [4:16] Where’s it going to go?
where interr | fut | move 3sg pres I |
149 (RA) What –
but | what sg n interr |
150 (a) [4:18] Its legs are tied!
leg pl f def | 3pl pres cop clt | tie pl P.part P |
151 (RA) What else can it do?!
what sg n interr | other sg n adj | can 3sg pres I |
152 (a) [4:20] What’s it going to do [indeed]. So now, tied up, it sits there, you shear it,
what sg n interr | fut | do 3sg pres I | tie sg f P.part P | 3sg pres cop clt | and | thus med adv | sit 3sg pres I | shear 2sg pres I | acc f 3sg clt |
153 (a) [4:25] and then we wash the wool
later adv | wash 1pl pres P | wool sg f def |
154 (RA) Ah.
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155 (a) [4:26] There wasn’t water [here so] we went up into the mountain woods
and | impf neg exist | water sg f | go pl L.part I | 1pl pres aux clt | in | mountain sg m def |
156 (a) [4:28] to wash it. [Way] up there.
comp | acc f 3sg clt | wash 1pl pres I | above adv |
157 (RA) Really?
thus adv | interr clt |
158 (a) [4:30] We were up there now, this spring. We loaded up a cauldron and a trough –
there adv | 1pl pres aux clt | pl L.part cop | now adv | this sg f prox adj | spring sg f | disc | hoist 1pl aor P | cauldron sg m def | trough sg f |
159 (a) [4:36] we loaded up everything, the wool in bags, and then
and | everything sg n adj | hoist 1pl aor P | wool sg f def | with | bag pl n def | and | there adv |
160 (a) [4:39] I washed it up there in the mountain woods. My daughters came with me
in | mountain sg m def | wash 1sg aor P | acc f 3sg clt | come 3pl aor P | and | daughter pl f def | with | acc 1sg |
161 (a) [4:42] and helped me. We washed it, and rested and had lunch in the cool shade.
help 3pl aor P | dat 1sg clt | wash 1pl aor P | acc f 3sg clt | rest 1pl aor P | there adv | eat a bit 1pl aor P | in | cold sg f adj | shade sg f |
162 (RA) Ah, nice.
disc | nice adv |
163 (a) [4:47] And we came back here and dried it out, and now we’ve picked the tobacco
and | dat refl clt | come 1pl aor P | here adv | dry 1pl aor P | acc f 3sg clt | now adv | tobacco sg n def | gather 1pl aor P |
164 (a) [4:53] and now we’ll deal with it, I’ll card it with the carder. The black [first]
now adv | fut | acc f 3sg clt | do.thus 1pl pres I | now adv | fut | acc f 3sg clt | card 1sg pres P | in | carder sg f def | black sg f def adj | even adv |
165 (a) [4:57] and [there’s] still a bit more white [to do].
nom f 3sg | and | white sg f def adj | still adv | little adv |
166 (RA) And how do you do the carding?
and | how interr | acc refl clt | card 3sg pres I |
167 (a) [4:58] Well, you stretch it out like this.
disc | ost | thus prox adv | ost | stretch 2sg pres I |
168 (RA) Like this?
thus adv | interr clt |
169 (a) [5:00] Yes, like that.
ost | thus med adv |
170 (RA) Hah, hah (I see).
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171 (a) [5:02] And what you can’t [manage like that], you [do with] the carders.
and | which sg n rel | neg | can pres imprs | and | to | carder pl m def |
172 (RA) Ah.
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173 (a) [5:04] I have these carders [that I use] sitting down.
have 1sg pres I | such pl med adj | sit pl P.part P | carder pl m |
174 (RA) Aha.
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175 (a) [5:06] I sit down, and stretch it, stretch it out – and they card it.
sit 1sg pres P | stretch 1sg pres I | stretch 1sg pres I | card 3pl pres I | acc f 3sg clt |
176 (RA) Ooh, yes.
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177 (a) [5:10] and
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178 (RA) [laughter]
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179 (a) [5:11] it comes out.
become 3sg pres I |
180 (a) And it comes out.
and | become 3sg pres I |
181 (a) And it comes out [laughter] – the wool.
and | become 3sg pres I | wool sg f def |