Vladimir Zhobov
Brŭšljan 1
1 (VZh) [What did you do as a shepherd?]
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2 (a) [0:03] I worked as a shepherd. I used to graze the sheep, and we raised nice lambs.
disc | as | shepherd sg m | work 1sg aor I | pasture 1sg impf I | sheep pl f def | and | produce 1pl impf I | nice pl adj | lamb pl n |
3 (a) [0:07] We cared for the animals well, and gave the "products" to the firm, to the ah-
look 1pl impf I | nicely adv | animal pl n def | and | give 1pl impf I | production sg n | to | to | firm sg n def | to | disc |
4 (a) [0:14] agrarian complex, the collective farm, in principle. Even as a private [owner]
A.P.K. sg n def | to | T.K.Z.S. sg n def | basically adv | but | and | as | private.owner sg m | disc |
5 (a) [0:18] I was a shepherd also. After that – when I got married I became a farmer.
rather adv | dat refl clt | 1sg impf cop | shepherd sg m | after | this sg n med adj | when conj | acc refl clt | marry 1sg aor P | become 1sg aor P | land.tiller sg m |
6 (a) [0:26] That is, I began to work in agriculture; we worked [at that] a certain time.
mean 3sg pres I | agriculture sg n | begin 1sg aor P | comp | work 1sg pres I | and | work 1pl aor I | to | one sg n adj | specific sg n adj | time sg n |
7 (a) [0:32] After that, in ’49 [when] we formed the collective farm, and entered into
after | this sg n med adj | during | forty | and | ninth sg f adj | year sg f | form 1pl aor I | T.K.Z.S. sg n def | enter 1pl aor P | in |
8 (a) [0:36] the collective farm, we began to work there collectively and I worked there
T.K.Z.S. sg n def | and | begin 1pl aor P | comp | work 1pl pres I | as.collective adv | there adv | and | in | acc n 3sg | work 1sg aor I |
9 (a) [0:47] as a supervisor the first years. After that I was the chair of the collective farm.
as | supervisor sg m | first pl def adj | year pl f | after | this sg n med adj | and | chairman sg m | of | T.K.Z.S. sg n def | 1sg impf cop |
10 (a) [0:54] During the first years in the collective we encountered great difficulties,
in | T.K.Z.S. sg n def | then adv | first pl def adj | year pl f | meet 1pl impf I | big pl adj | difficulty pl f |
11 (a) [1:00] [as] at that time a working day was paid very poorly.
interr | then adv | 3sg impf cop | poorly adv | pay sg m P.part P | work sg m def adj | day sg m |
12 (VZh) [Tell me about sheepherding and such things.]
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13 (a) [1:04] Generally we – you start out with sheep in the morning: we’ll get up,
basically adv | nom 1pl | sheep pl f def | when conj | acc 3pl clt | begin 2sg pres P | morning adv | fut | arise 1pl pres P |
14 (a) [1:08] We’ll – we’ll feed them, we’ll feed them,
fut | acc 3pl clt | fut | acc 3pl clt | feed 1pl pres P | fut | acc 3pl clt | [...] | fut | acc 3pl clt | feed 1pl pres P |
15 (a) [1:12] we’ll take the lambs off separately, we’ll give food to the mothers,
fut | separate 1pl pres P | lamb pl n def | separately adv | fut | give 1pl pres P | to | mother pl f def | comp | eat 3pl pres I |
16 (a) [1:15] a little at the beginning, and then we gave [food] to the lambs.
by | little adv | beginning sg n | after | this sg n med adj | to | lamb pl n def | again adv | give 1pl impf I |
17 (a) [1:20] And [then] we let them out to graze. Here the animals were mostly kept
and | acc 3pl clt | release 1pl impf I | to | pasture sg f | mostly adv | here adv | acc refl clt | acc refl clt | keep 3pl pres I | keep 3pl impf I | animal pl n def |
18 (a) [1:27] out in the pasture. There were three of us workers. One stayed with the lambs,
in | in | pasture sg f | and | 1pl impf cop | three an.num | people pl | worker pl m | one sg m def adj | remain 3sg impf I | by | lamb pl n def |
19 (a) [1:32] another drove one herd of sheep – we separated the sheep into two herds –
other sg m def adj | remain 3sg impf I | collect 3sg impf I | one sg f def adj | herd sg f | sheep pl f | in | two f | herd pl f | acc 3pl clt | separate 1pl impf I |
20 (a) [1:36] and the other, the other herd. One was cleaning out the sheep pen there
other sg m def adj | other sg f def adj | herd sg f | one sg n adj | clean 3sg impf I | pen sg f def | there adv |
21 (a) [1:41] feeding the lambs. At noon he'd take them to [where] we milk [the sheep].
feed 3sg impf I | lamb pl n def | at.noon adv | 3sg fut.pst | comp | acc 3pl clt | take 3sg pres P | comp | acc 3pl clt | and | milk 1pl pres I |
22 (a) [1:46] We milked them, and took the milk on donkeys to the village, to the collection point
milk 1pl impf I | acc 3pl clt | transport 1pl impf I | milk sg n def | with | donkey pl n | in | village sg n | to | point sg m def |
23 (a) [1:52] that was [located] in the village. And so went the whole season
where rel | 3sg impf cop | in | village sg n def | and | thus med adv | go.on 3sg impf I |
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entire sg m def adj | season sg m |
24 (a) [1:59] of work in animal husbandry.
of | work sg f | in | animal.husbandry sg n |
25 (VZh) [What other animals did you care for?]
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26 (a) [2:04] I didn’t look after any other animals in herds like that.
disc | other pl adj | animal pl n | thus med adv | herd pl f | neg | 1sg pres aux clt | look sg m L.part I |
27 (b) [2:07] Cows.
cow pl f |
28 (a) [2:07] I tend cows. We cowherds – there was a separate [group] of cowherds
cow pl f def | look 1sg pres I | nom 1pl | cowherd pl m def | dat refl clt | impf exist | separately adv | cowherd pl m |
29 (a) [2:11] who were busy at the cow farm – and they, you know,
who pl rel adj | acc refl clt | occupy 3pl impf I | with | cow.farm sg f def | and | nom 3pl | there adv | interr |
30 (a) [2:17] took the calves from [their mothers] and fed them. One – that is one –
separate 3pl impf I | calf pl n def | feed 3pl impf I | acc 3pl clt | disc | one sg m def adj | one sg m def adj | comp | say 3sg pres P |
31 (a) [2:24] went with the cows, and the other stayed with the calves [and] fed them.
go 3sg impf I | with | cow pl f def | and | other sg m def adj | remain 3sg impf I | by | calf pl n def | feed 3pl impf I | acc 3pl clt |
32 (VZh) [What sorts of occupations were there in the village?]
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33 (a) [2:29] Well, the occupations in the villages are these: either in animal husbandry
disc | nom 3pl | craft pl m def | in | village sg n def | 3pl pres cop clt | acc 3pl | either | in | animal.husbandry sg n def |
34 (a) [2:33] – you’re a shepherd – or you’re in field labor, a land worker
fut | 2sg pres cop clt | shepherd sg m | either | fut | 2sg pres cop clt | in | agronomy sg n def | land.worker sg m |
35 (a) [2:37] as we say in our [speech]. For example they plow, they reap,
rel | dat n 3sg clt | call 1pl pres I | nom 1pl | by.our.way adv | plow 3pl pres I | comp | say 1pl pres P | reap 3pl pres I |
36 (a) [2:41] they transport sheaves, they thresh them at the threshing machine,
drive 3pl pres I | sheaf pl m def | to | thresher sg f def | acc m 3sg clt | thresh 3sg impf I | and |
37 (a) [2:45] and that’s how work progressed in field agriculture.
disc | thus med adv | go.on 3sg impf I | work sg f def | in | agronomy sg n |
38 (VZh) [Were there water buffaloes?]
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39 (a) [2:49] There were very few. In principle there were many water buffaloes,
impf exist | completely adv | little adv | generally adv | impf exist | water.buffalo pl m | many adv |
40 (a) [2:53] Before the collective farm was formed, when we were private [landowners],
before | comp | acc refl clt | form 3sg pres I | T.K.Z.S. sg n def | while conj | 1pl impf cop | private pl adj |
41 (a) [2:56] there were water buffaloes, horses, cows, there were these –
water.buffalo pl m | impf exist | horse pl m | impf exist | cow pl f | impf exist | such pl med adj |
42 (a) [2:59] at that time there were many water buffaloes. There were cows –
then adv | impf exist | water.buffalo pl m | many adv | cow pl f | impf exist |
43 (b) [3:04] There were horses.
horse pl m | impf exist |
44 (a) [3:05] There were horses, there were pigs in small herds, these small herds –
horse pl m | impf exist | pig pl f | impf exist | moreover adv | thus med adv | by | small.herd pl f | small.herd pl f | rel | impf exist |
45 (a) [3:11] private herds as we call them, there were livestock.
private pl adj | small.herd pl f | impf exist | dat n 3sg clt | call 1pl pres I | nom 1pl | impf exist | livestock sg m |
46 (VZh) How did you call those?
how interr | dat 3pl clt | call 2pl impf I | nom 2pl |
47 (a) [3:16] “Suriye” (herds)
herd pl f |
48 (VZh) Ah, for [a group of] many –
disc | for | many.of adv | thus sg n adj |
49 (a) [3:18] When there are many, a group of animals, we call that pi-
for | many.of adv | group sg f def | animal pl n | dat n 3sg clt | call 1pl pres I | dat n 3sg clt | say 1pl pres I |
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50 (VZh) Pigs.
pig pl f |
51 (a) [3:22] Pigs, yes. And there were a lot of animals. However after that
pig pl f | yes | and | impf exist | animal pl n | many adv | however adv | after | this sg n med adj |
52 (a) [3:28] people fell into poverty, they disappeared, they died out, as they say,
and | people pl def | decay 3pl aor P | be.absent 3pl aor P | die.out 3pl aor P | rel | pres exist | one f adj | word sg f |
53 (a) [3:33] and the animals, they too –
and | and | animal pl n def | and | nom 3pl | dat refl clt |
54 (VZh) [And did people play musical instruments?]
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55 (a) [3:34] Well, we did play [instruments], these small pipes and end-blown flutes.
excl | dat 1sg clt | thus adv | with | whistle pl f | and | with | flute pl m | play 1pl impf I |
56 (a) [3:38] That is, the shepherds played [them]. But that’s not some kind of,
play 3pl impf I | comp | say 1pl pres P | shepherd pl m def | but | this sg n med adj | 3sg pres cop clt | neg | 3sg pres cop clt | some sg f adj |
57 (a) [3:42] like you might say, performing in some kind of orchestra, but [rather]
thus med adv | comp | acc refl clt | say 3sg pres P | how rel | some.kind sg m adj | orchestra sg m | comp | perform 3pl pres P | but |
58 (a) [3:47] [a shepherd] walks along, chirps after his sheep to amuse himself.
thus med adv | walk 3sg pres I | and | dat refl clt | chirp 3sg pres I | after | sheep pl f def | comp | acc refl clt | amuse 3sg pres I |
59 (a) [3:50] We were all such musicians, with small pipes and end-blown flutes.
such pl med adj |
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musician pl m | 1pl pres aux clt | pl L.part cop | nom 1pl | with | whistle pl f | flute pl m |
60 (a) [3:54] Some had bagpipes, and played them; bagpipe players [were] in the interior,
and | bagpipe pl f | impf exist | to | some pl adj | and | play.music 3pl impf I | interior sg f def | bagpiper pl m |
61 (a) [3:59] because when I went to Granichar, there were boys there
because conj | nom 1sg | and | towards | Granichar | go 1sg aor I | to | there adv | there adv | impf exist | boy pl n |
62 (a) [4:02] playing bagpipes. No, not the [simple] bagpipe but the bagpipe with –
who pl rel adj | play 3pl impf I | bagpipe pl f | neg | 3sg pres cop clt | bagpipe sg f | bagpipe sg f | with |
63 (b) [4:05] End-blown flutes, end-blown flutes. A bagpipe is one thing, an end-blown flute –
flute pl m | and | flute pl m | and | [...] | bagpipe sg f def | apart adv | and | flute sg m def |
64 (a) [4:08] Yes indeed. A bagpipe is one thing and an end-blown flute is another.
disc | yes | disc | bagpipe sg f def | apart adv | and | flute sg m def | apart adv |
65 (VZh) [How do you make sheepfolds?]
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66 (a) [4:11] We make the [sheepfo]lds from wood. Sticks pounded [into the ground] and after the sti–
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acc f 3sg clt | make 1pl pres I | from | wood pl n def | pound pl P.part P | stick pl m | and | after |
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67 (a) [4:17] it’s covered with rye straw, and inside we make dividers so we can –
this sg n med adj | cover sg f P.part P | with | rye.straw sg f | and | inside adv | make pl L.part I | divider pl f | for | comp | can 1pl pres I | comp |
68 (a) [4:23] to separate the sheep out. The ones who’ve had lambs in one place,
comp | 3pl pres cop clt | distribute pl P.part P | sheep pl f def |
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separately adv | which pl rel adj | 3pl pres cop clt | bear.lamb pl def P.part P | apart adv |
69 (a) [4:29] the ones who haven’t, in another; and yet another for feeding the lambs.
and | not.bear.lamb pl def P.part P | apart adv | and | for | feed def vbl.n I | of | lamb pl n def | and | apart adv |
70 (VZh) [And what do you make the sheepfolds out of?]
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71 (a) [4:34] [We ma]ke [it] from lumber. It’s made from lumber, with –
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from | wooden sg m adj | material sg m | wooden sg m adj | material sg m | acc refl clt | make 3sg pres I | with |
72 (b) [4:37] Poles.
stick pl m |
73 (a) [4:38] – poles.
stick pl m |
74 (VZh) Uh huh.
yes
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75 (a) [4:40] Sheepfolds were made back then – they'd choose according to the old custom.
this pl med adj | sheepfold pl f | acc refl clt | make 3pl impf I | then adv | acc refl clt | choose 3pl impf I | in.old.way adv |
76 (a) [4:43] Especially back then, they would choose them to be in places
one sg n adj | time sg n | especially adv | then adv | acc 3pl clt | choose 3pl impf I | in | such pl med adj | place pl n |
77 (a) [4:47] that were warm, that were such, that faced – as a shelter
which pl rel adj | 3pl pres cop clt | warm pl adj | which pl rel adj | 3pl pres cop clt | thus adv | come 3pl pres I | to | for | shelter sg m |
78 (a) [4:51] from the wind, such that the wind wouldn’t get in. They built them
from | wind pl m def | comp | neg | acc 3pl clt | catch 3pl pres I | wind pl m def | and | sheepfold pl f def | acc refl clt | make 3pl impf I |
79 (a) [4:56] in a primitive manner. They were primitive, not like now, so to speak,
primitive pl adj | again adv | primitive pl adj | 3pl pres cop clt | neg | 3pl pres cop clt | as | now adv | comp | say 1pl pres P |
80 (a) [4:59] as they make them, but primitive. There’ll be in one sheepfold, let’s say,
rel | acc 3pl clt | make 3pl pres I | this sg n adj | primitive pl adj | 3pl pres cop clt | one f adj | sheepfold sg f | fut | pres exist | comp | say 1pl pres P |
81 (a) [5:04] [space] to get in forty or fifty of today’s sheep. But back then you got in
for | comp | drive.in 2sg pres P | forty | fifty | sheep pl f | today's pl adj | hes | rather adv | then adv | get.in 3sg impf I |
82 (a) [5:11] – forty or fifty goats went in, while the sheep lay down outside
forty | fifty | goat pl f | enter 3pl impf I | hes | sheep pl f def | dat refl clt | lie 3pl impf I | outside adv |
83 (a) [5:14] in – in the snow, in the rain – “au naturel”.
in | in | snow sg m def | in | rain sg m def | in | nature sg f def |
84 (VZh) [What do you call it when it rains and snows both?]
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85 (a) [5:17] So when it snows or rains we call that sleet.
therefore adv | snow sg m | and | rain m | when rel | precipitate 3sg pres I | dat n 3sg clt | call 1pl pres I | sleet sg f | nom 1pl |
86 (a) [5:20] [When] it snows or rains, let’s say heavy precipitation,
snow sg m | and | rain m | precipitate 3sg pres I | comp | say 1pl pres P | strong pl adj | precipitation pl m |
87 (a) [5:24] cold weather like that, we call that sleet because it “sleets”.
such sg n med adj | cold sg n adj | weather sg n def | and | dat n 3sg clt | call 1pl pres I | sleet sg f | because | sleet 3sg pres I |
88 (VZh) [Did you take the sheep out when it snowed?]
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89 (a) [5:27] If there’s not much snow we kept walking, and made the sheep
if conj | 3sg pres cop clt | little sg m adj | snow sg m def | go 1pl impf I | go 1pl impf I | and | acc 3pl clt | drive 1pl impf I | sheep pl f def | comp |
90 (a) [5:31] root [for food], because otherwise – there wasn’t any grain
comp | root 3pl pres I | because conj | otherwise adv | impf neg exist | acc n 3sg clt | this sg n med adj | grain sg n |
91 (a) [5:34] like they make now for animals – fodder modder and various such things –
as | now adv | prepare 3pl pres P | for | animal pl n def | fodder pl m | “modder” pl m | there adv | various pl adj | thing pl f |
92 (a) [5:37] back then animals had to subsist on very little. We make piles of leaves
disc | then adv | 3pl pres cop clt | to | to | maintenance sg f | animal pl n def | completely adv | little adv | make 1pl pres I | one pl adj | leafage pl m |
93 (a) [5:42] they would make leaf-fodder for some of them, but in very small quantities.
leafage sg m adj | fodder sg m | for | some pl adj | make 3pl impf I | and | nom sg n | in | small sg n adj | quantity sg n |
94 (a) [5:46] Mostly they went hungry, out in “nature”. And we fed them young shoots –
mostly adv | 3sg impf cop | hunger sg m | and | mostly adv | in | nature sg f def | and | feed.shoots 1pl impf I |
95 (a) [5:50] In the old days they fed them shoots. At that time
one sg n adj | time sg n | 3pl pres aux clt | acc 3pl clt | feed.shoots pl L.part I | and | many adv | in | this sg n med adj | time sg n |
96 (a) [5:52] the forests weren– [cough] weren’t so heavily, [let’s say], regulated.
forest pl f def | neg | neg | 3pl pres aux clt | pl L.part cop | so.much med adv | under | control sg m |
97 (a) [5:57] And when snow comes, well – they begin – a whole swath [of trees]
when conj | catch 3sg pres P | snow sg m | ost | begin 3pl pres I | entire sg f adj | track sg f | here adv |
98 (a) [6:02] begins to be cut down, and they would feed the sheep the offshoots
fut | acc refl clt | begin 3sg pres P | cut 3pl pres I | and | sheep pl f def | acc 3pl clt | feed.shoots 3pl impf I | with | offshoot sg m |
99 (a) [6:07] from the forest, like now, you might say.
from | forest sg f def | as | now adv | comp | say 1pl pres P |