Vladimirovo 3

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1 (VZh) [0:03] River – is there a river here nearby?

bàra

river sg f

river sg f

pres exist

interr clt

here adv

nearby adv

2 (a) [0:04] Ah, yes. There is.

disc

ìma

pres exist

има

3 (VZh) Of course, there would be …

ìma

pres exist

има

razbìra

understand 3sg pres I

разбирам

acc refl clt

се

4 (a) [0:06] There is, here [nearby].

pres exist

here adv

5 (VZh) … a river here. Did they catch fish in it?

river sg f

here adv

catch 3pl impf I

interr clt

fish sg f

acc f 3sg

6 (a) [0:08] They did, using cast nets.

disc

catch 3pl impf I

with

casting.net pl n

7 (VZh) [Ah,] with cast nets.

sɤs

with

serkmèta

casting.net pl n

серкме

8 (c) [0:11] [laughter]

[...]

9 (VZh) And who used to weave these nets?

and

which sg m interr

acc 3pl clt

knit 3sg impf I

this pl adj

casting.net pl n

10 (a) [0:13] The men [did] – the ones who have them.

man pl m def

dat refl clt

acc n 3sg clt

who sg m inter.rel

dat refl clt

have 3sg pres I

11 (VZh) Ah, so men do weaving too!

disc

mean 3sg pres I

and

man pl m def

knit 3pl pres I

12 (a) [0:15] Wait - um – well –

disc

wait sg imv I

hes

disc

13 (c) [0:16] [laughter]

[...]

14 (a) [0:17] The men made [them] and went off with the cast nets, while we women made –

man pl m def

make 3pl impf I

with

go 3pl impf I

with

fishing.net sg n

and

nom 1pl

woman pl f def

make 1pl impf I

15 (a) [0:21] well, this – as we spoke of – we talked about hemp.

sɤs

with

hes

this sg n adj

rel

acc n 3sg clt

say 1pl impf I

talk 1pl impf I

for

hemp pl.t def

16 (a) [0:28] We weave that into fabric, and put [it] – on this

weave 1pl pres P

hes

fabric sg n

and

[...]

put 1pl pres I

[...]

ost

this sg n adj

17 (a) [0:34] – like it is here – you twist up one end of it [closed]

as conj

3sg pres cop clt

here adv

this sg n adj

twist 2sg pres P

from

one sg m def adj

end sg m

18 (a) [0:38] here, and then we go out together with [other] women,

and

from.here adv

and

go 1pl pres I

nom 1pl

with

woman pl f def

dat refl clt

go 1pl pres I

19 (a) [0:41] one holding each side [of the fabric], and go along the water’s [edge]

one f sg adj

one sg f def adj

hold 3sg pres I

from.here adv

to.here adv

and

thus adv

ost

hes

water f def sg

20 (a) [0:45] and here they come – the fish slides into the [fabric] and gets caught.

hort

hort

hort

and

fish sg f def

excl

enter 3sg pres P

this sg n adj

and

dat refl clt

си

lòvi

catch 3sg pres I

ловя

21 (b) Uh huh.

əmhəm

bkch

22 (VZh) Ah, so you went out to catch fish too.

à

excl

hes

mean 3sg pres I

and

nom 2pl

2pl pres aux clt

catch pl L.part I

fish sg f

23 (a) [0:51] Ah, we did! You know how – how they stir up polenta

à

excl

and

catch pl L.part I

1pl pres aux clt

know 2sg pres I

what.kind pl adj

what sg n interr

acc refl clt

stir 3sg pres I

hes

polenta sg m

24 (a) [0:55] in a cauldron. Polenta, have you eaten that?

cauldron sg m def

polenta sg m

eat sg m L.part I

interr clt

2sg pres aux clt

25 (VZh) Oh yes, I have, …

disc

eat sg m L.part I

1sg pres aux clt

26 (a) [0:58] Yes.

dà

yes

да

27 (VZh) … but I don’t know if it’s the same as the way you make it.

but

neg

know 1sg pres I

interr

3sg pres cop clt

same sg m def adj

inter.rel

nom 2pl

2pl pres aux clt

acc m 3sg clt

make pl L.part I

28 (a) [1:00] [For] polenta –

kačəmàk

polenta sg m

качамак

29 (VZh) How – how do they make it here?

how interr

acc refl clt

how interr

acc m 3sg clt

make 3pl pres I

30 (a) [1:02] You mix it up in a cauldron with flour, except that [the flour for]

cauldron sg m def

acc refl clt

mix 3sg pres I

with

hes

flour sg n def

only adv

that conj

31 (a) [1:05] polenta is from corn. And we go to the river [with] this cauldron

from

corn sg f

polenta sg m

and

this sg m adj

cauldron sg m

go 1pl pres P

hes

river sg f def

32 (a) [1:10] and we put this cauldron that the polenta was mixed in – we’ve eaten it up

and

put 1pl pres P

cauldron sg m def

rel

3sg pres cop clt

stir sg n P.part I

polenta sg m

1pl pres aux clt

acc m 3sg clt

eat pl L.part P

33 (a) [1:13] but there are bits left – and we put a stone in the pot and put it [in the river]

but

hes

end sg m

and

acc m 3sg clt

put 1pl pres P

cauldron sg m def

one sg m adj

stone sg m

put 1pl pres I

34 (a) [1:18] and the fish swim into the cauldron, and we – we strain it out

disc

cauldron sg m def

and

fish sg f def

enter 3sg pres P

and

nom 1pl

acc m 3sg clt

and

then adv

strain 1pl pres I

35 (a) [1:22] and [that’s how] we catch the fish.

and

catch 1pl pres I

fish sg f

how.much interr adv

2pl pres aux clt

acc refl clt

think pl L.part P

crafty adv

comp

acc 3pl clt

catch 2pl pres I

39 (a) [1:28] Yes?

à

disc

40 (VZh) What kinds of fish did there used to be here in this river?

hes

and

what.kind pl adj

fish pl f

impf exist

here adv

this sg f adj

river sg f

41 (a) [1:31] What do you mean?

what sg n interr

comp

disc

pres exist

42 (VZh) What kinds of fish –

kəkvì

what.kind pl interr adj

какъв

rìbi

fish pl f

риба

43 (b) [1:33] What kind of fish –

kakvà

what.kind sg f interr adj

какъв

rìba

fish sg f

риба

44 (VZh) How did you call them? Which sorts of fish? Do you remember how they were called?

how interr

how interr

dat 3pl clt

call 2pl impf I

what.kind pl adj

sort pl m

fish sg f

remember 2pl pres P

interr clt

how interr

acc 3pl clt

call 3pl impf I

45 (a) [1:38] Well, [there were] bitterlings –

disc

papadùrki

bitterling pl f

пападурка

46 (b) [1:40] [laughter]

[...]

47 (a) [1:40] [as] we called some of them. I know that they call these broad [flat] ones bitterlings.

dat n 3sg clt

call 1pl pres I

one pl adj

know 1sg pres I

that conj

dat n 3sg clt

call 3pl pres I

bitterling pl f

one pl adj

such pl adj

wide pl adj

48 (a) [1:45] [Then] there are these thin ones, loaches.

loach pl m

one pl adj

thin pl adj

49 (VZh) [Ah,] they call them loaches.

loach pl m

dat 3pl clt

call 3pl pres I

50 (b) [1:48] Yes. [And also] bleak.

yes

bleak pl m

51 (VZh) Ah!

а̀аа

excl

52 (a) [1:50] And that’s all.

and

tavà

this sg n adj

този

3sg pres cop clt

съм

53 (c) [1:50] They call them loaches.

loach pl m

dat 3pl clt

call 3pl pres I

54 (b) [1:51] Bleak.

belvàri

bleak pl m

белвар

55 (VZh) And how do you cook them?

and

how interr

acc 3pl clt

cook 2pl pres I

56 (a) [1:53] [You stick them] right off into water, in – into a pot, we make soup to eat.

immediately adv

water sg f

[...]

pot sg n def

and

put 1pl pres I

soup sg f

comp

eat 1pl pres I

57 (a) [1:57] There's [only] soup. We didn't cook them any other way.

soup sg f

pres neg exist

otherwise adv

neg

1pl pres aux clt

acc 3pl clt

cook pl L.part I

[...]

58 (VZh) You know, that’s my …

mean 3sg pres I

this sg n adj

dat 1sg clt

3sg pres cop clt

59 (b) [2:01] [You never] fried [them]?

pɤ̀ržena

fry sg f P.part I

пържа

60 (VZh) … favorite [dish], fish soup. So tell me how you made it,

l’ubìmoto

favorite sg n def adj

fish sg f adj

soup sg f

comp

dat 1sg clt

say 2sg pres P

how interr

2pl pres aux clt

make pl L.part I

61 (VZh) and I’ll make it myself in a day or two.

fish sg f adj

soup sg f

fut

dat refl clt

make 1sg pres P

still adv

other sg m adj

day sg m

62 (a) [2:07] Fish soup?

fish sg f adj

soup sg f

63 (VZh) Yes.

dà

yes

да

64 (a) [2:08] When the water boils – you wash the fish well, and when the water boils

when conj

boil 3sg pres P

water f def sg

wash 2sg pres P

nicely adv

fish sg f def

and

when conj

boil 3sg pres P

water f def sg

65 (a) [2:12] you put the fish in to cook.

put 2sg pres I

fish sg f def

comp

boil 3sg pres I

66 (b) [2:15] And onion?

and

lùkɤ

onion sg m def

лук

67 (a) [2:17] You can also do it with –

disc

and

mòže

can pres imprs

може

and

sɤs

with

68 (VZh) Do you clean the fish first?

clean 2sg pres I

interr clt

acc f 3sg clt

fish sg f def

first adv

69 (a) [2:20] Well of course you clean it, and then –

disc

fut

acc f 3sg clt

clean 2sg pres P

fut

hes

[...]

70 (a) [2:23] it depends what sort of fish it is. If it's little ...

zavisì

depend 3sg pres I

завися

kvà

what.kind sg f interr adj

fish sg f

pres exist

if conj

3sg pres cop clt

tiny sg f adj

71 (VZh) Yes?

bkch

72 (a) [2:26] ... you add onion and peppers, and summer savory

and

onion sg m

pepper pl f

put 2sg pres P

and

[ … ]

čùbricә̥

summer.savory sg f

чорбица

[…]

73 (a) [2:31] For fish soup you only [need to] add summer savory.

for

fish sg f def

acc refl clt

put 3sg pres I

soup sg f def

summer.savory sg f

only adv

74 (VZh) Uh huh. But if you make chicken soup, do you put in thickening?

əmhəm

disc

but

from

chicken sg n

if conj

make 2sg pres I

fut

acc f 3sg clt

thicken 2sg pres I

interr clt

soup sg f def

75 (a) [2:39] For chicken soup?

for

from

chicken sg n

interr clt

76 (VZh) Yes.

dà

yes

да

77 (a) [2:41] Well, [when it’s] from chickens ...

è

disc

from

chicken sg n def

already adv

78 (VZh) Or from hens.

from

hen sg f

79 (a) [2:42] ... when you make that [kind of] soup, you can also add rice,

when conj

make 2sg pres P

there adv

dat refl clt

can pres imprs

comp

put 2sg pres I

and

rice sg m

soup sg f def

80 (a) [2:46] or noodles, or some other things. And when

can pres imprs

noodles sg n

what.kind pl adj

other pl adj

thing pl f

and

when conj

[...]

hes

81 (a) [2:51] it’s all cooked, when it’s ready, you thicken it. You break eggs separately,

hes

boil 3sg pres P

everything sg n adj

comp

3sg pres cop clt

ready sg n adj

fut

thicken 2sg pres I

put 2sg pres P

break 2sg pres P

egg pl n def

separately adv

82 (a) [2:56] beat them, pour in a little liquid [from the soup] so it gets ...

beat 2sg pres I

acc 3pl clt

pour 2sg pres I

little adv

water sg f

comp

acc refl clt

comp

become 3sg pres P

83 (b) [3:00] [unintelligible]

[...]

84 (a) [3:00] ... to be the same heat as the soup, and doesn’t curdle. And that’s it.

how.much inter.rel

soup sg f def

3sg pres cop clt

hot sg f adj

and

comp

acc refl clt

neg

interrupt 3sg pres P

and

thus adv

85 (VZh) Uh huh. As for beans, how did you prefer them?

əmxəm

disc

and

beans sg m def

how interr

acc n 3sg clt

acc m 3sg clt

love 2pl impf I

more adv

86 (VZh) Did you eat them “green”, with the pods still on, or [wait] till they ripen?

thus adv

green sg m adj

interr clt

acc m 3sg clt

eat 2pl impf I

pod pl f

when conj

ripen 3sg pres P

87 (a) [3:15] You mean when do we pick them?

when interr

acc m 3sg clt

gather 1pl pres I

interr clt

88 (VZh) Yes.

dà

yes

да

89 (a) [3:18] Well, uh – we pick them when they’re ripe.

disc

well

comp

[...]

comp

ripen 3sg pres P

acc m 3sg clt

gather 1pl pres I

90 (a) [3:20] If it's the kind we call “peshak” (white beans), we pull them off [ripe].

ako

if conj

ако

hes

dat m 3sg clt

call 1pl pres I

white.beans sg m

nom 1pl

acc m 3sg clt

pluck 1pl pres I

91 (a) [3:25] They – they all ripen at the same time. If it’s vine beans,

nom m 3sg

nom m 3sg

ripen 3sg pres P

from

one sg m adj

time sg m

all sg m def adj

if conj

3sg pres cop clt

vine.beans sg m

92 (a) [3:30] they – you plant them [together] with corn, and that’s

nom m 3sg

acc refl clt

where rel

acc m 3sg clt

put 2sg pres I

hes

corn sg f

this sg n adj

93 (a) [3:24] [how] they climb. Up a tree or something similar. We pick only the pods,

nom m 3sg

acc refl clt

climb 3sg pres P

tree sg n

disc

gather 1pl pres I

only adv

pod pl f def

94 (a) [3:38] when they ripen, [only] the ones that are ripe.

until conj

ripen 3pl pres I

which pl adj

3pl pres aux clt

ripen pl L.part P

95 (VZh) Uh huh. And those ripe ones, the ones you call “peshak”,

əmhə

disc

and

this sg m adj

ripe sg m def adj

inter.rel

rel

rel

acc m 3sg clt

call 2sg pres I

white.beans sg m

96 (VZh) do you do something with them there afterwards? Do you winnow [them}?

after adv

something sg n

do 3sg pres I

interr clt

acc refl clt

there adv

winnow 3sg pres I

97 (a) [3:47] Afterward we put them out in the sun and then [beat them] with a piece of wood –

after adv

acc m 3sg clt

put 1pl pres I

and

acc refl clt

heat 3sg pres P

and

with

one sg n adj

wood sg n

98 (a) [3:50] [thump thump] bang, bang – if there’s a lot [thump] we pound them on top, thrash them,

excl

excl

if conj

3sg pres cop clt

much adv

pound 1pl pres I

above adv

thrash 1pl pres I

99 (a) [3:55] and they – and then we winnow them in the wind, and that’s it.

nom m 3sg

acc refl clt

and

nom m 3sg

acc m 3sg clt

winnow 1pl pres P

wind sg m def

and

disc

thus adv

100 (VZh) Ah, so you have to wait for the wind to blow!

disc

mean 3sg pres I

must pres I imprs

comp

wait 2sg pres I

wind sg m

comp

blow 3sg pres P

101 (a) [3:59] If [unintelligible] there was a wind. But you know, we were getting

if conj

interr

wind sg m

comp

pres exist

but

know 2sg pres I

1pl pres aux clt

take.out pl L.part I

102 (a) [4:04] a lot of them. And we take them down to the marshland in a cart

much adv

and

go 3sg pres P

marshland sg m def

ost

there adv

with

cart sg f def

103 (a) [4:08] because there’s wind there. Where there are streets, there isn’t enough wind

and

there adv

pres exist

wind sg m

because

street sg f def

more adv

pres neg exist

wind sg m

104 (a) [4:11] but there’s wind there, so [that’s where] we winnow them.

and

there adv

pres exist

wind sg m

and

acc n 3sg clt

то

odvèeme

winnow 1pl pres P

отвея

105 (VZh) Uh huh. And how do you winnow? Do you take these large tin boxes and –

disc

disc

how interr

acc refl clt

winnow 3sg pres I

take 2sg pres I

from

from

tin.box pl f

106 (a) [4:17] Tin boxes, buckets, and such. You dig through and pour it out [and the wind takes the chaff].̀

hes

tin.box sg f def

bucket pl f

such sg n adj

scoop 2sg pres I

and

pour 2sg pres I

107 (c) [4:23] [You have] to put something below it [to catch the beans in].

something sg n

below adv

dat n 3sg clt

put 2sg pres P

below adv

108 (VZh) Because the beans – the beans are heavier. But as for the other,

because

beans sg m def

beans sg m def

this sg n adj

heavy sg n adj

and

this sg n adj

other sg n def adj

109 (VZh) how do you call what’s [left]?

how interr

dat n 3sg clt

acc refl clt

call 3sg pres I

rel

3sg pres cop clt

110 (a) [4:30] Well, that’s “bobovinye” (pods and other remains)

disc

this sg n adj

3sg pres cop clt

empty.pods sg n def

111 (VZh) “Bobovinye”.

bobòvin’e

pods sg n def

бобовине

112 (a) [4:33] [We keep] that for the sheep.

this sg n adj

for

sheep pl f def

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Vladimirovo 3

1 (VZh) [0:03] River – is there a river here nearby?

2 (a) [0:04] Ah, yes. There is.

3 (VZh) Of course, there would be …

4 (a) [0:06] There is, here [nearby].

5 (VZh) … a river here. Did they catch fish in it?

6 (a) [0:08] They did, using cast nets.

7 (VZh) [Ah,] with cast nets.

8 (c) [0:11] [laughter]

9 (VZh) And who used to weave these nets?

10 (a) [0:13] The men [did] – the ones who have them.

11 (VZh) Ah, so men do weaving too!

12 (a) [0:15] Wait - um – well –

13 (c) [0:16] [laughter]

14 (a) [0:17] The men made [them] and went off with the cast nets, while we women made –

15 (a) [0:21] well, this – as we spoke of – we talked about hemp.

16 (a) [0:28] We weave that into fabric, and put [it] – on this

17 (a) [0:34] – like it is here – you twist up one end of it [closed]

18 (a) [0:38] here, and then we go out together with [other] women,

19 (a) [0:41] one holding each side [of the fabric], and go along the water’s [edge]

20 (a) [0:45] and here they come – the fish slides into the [fabric] and gets caught.

21 (b) Uh huh.

22 (VZh) Ah, so you went out to catch fish too.

23 (a) [0:51] Ah, we did! You know how – how they stir up polenta

24 (a) [0:55] in a cauldron. Polenta, have you eaten that?

25 (VZh) Oh yes, I have, …

26 (a) [0:58] Yes.

27 (VZh) … but I don’t know if it’s the same as the way you make it.

28 (a) [1:00] [For] polenta –

29 (VZh) How – how do they make it here?

30 (a) [1:02] You mix it up in a cauldron with flour, except that [the flour for]

31 (a) [1:05] polenta is from corn. And we go to the river [with] this cauldron

32 (a) [1:10] and we put this cauldron that the polenta was mixed in – we’ve eaten it up

33 (a) [1:13] but there are bits left – and we put a stone in the pot and put it [in the river]

34 (a) [1:18] and the fish swim into the cauldron, and we – we strain it out

35 (a) [1:22] and [that’s how] we catch the fish.

36 (VZh) [laughter]

37 (b) [1:23] [laughter]

38 (VZh) How clever you were to think of catching them this way!

39 (a) [1:28] Yes?

40 (VZh) What kinds of fish did there used to be here in this river?

41 (a) [1:31] What do you mean?

42 (VZh) What kinds of fish –

43 (b) [1:33] What kind of fish –

44 (VZh) How did you call them? Which sorts of fish? Do you remember how they were called?

45 (a) [1:38] Well, [there were] bitterlings –

46 (b) [1:40] [laughter]

47 (a) [1:40] [as] we called some of them. I know that they call these broad [flat] ones bitterlings.

48 (a) [1:45] [Then] there are these thin ones, loaches.

49 (VZh) [Ah,] they call them loaches.

50 (b) [1:48] Yes. [And also] bleak.

51 (VZh) Ah!

52 (a) [1:50] And that’s all.

53 (c) [1:50] They call them loaches.

54 (b) [1:51] Bleak.

55 (VZh) And how do you cook them?

56 (a) [1:53] [You stick them] right off into water, in – into a pot, we make soup to eat.

57 (a) [1:57] There's [only] soup. We didn't cook them any other way.

58 (VZh) You know, that’s my …

59 (b) [2:01] [You never] fried [them]?

60 (VZh) … favorite [dish], fish soup. So tell me how you made it,

61 (VZh) and I’ll make it myself in a day or two.

62 (a) [2:07] Fish soup?

63 (VZh) Yes.

64 (a) [2:08] When the water boils – you wash the fish well, and when the water boils

65 (a) [2:12] you put the fish in to cook.

66 (b) [2:15] And onion?

67 (a) [2:17] You can also do it with –

68 (VZh) Do you clean the fish first?

69 (a) [2:20] Well of course you clean it, and then –

70 (a) [2:23] it depends what sort of fish it is. If it's little ...

71 (VZh) Yes?