Kolju Marinovo 5

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1 (a) [0:01] Well, at village celebrations some slaughter their own way but when we have [it],

for

fair sg m def

someone pl adj

acc 3pl clt

slaughter 3pl pres I

hes

apart adv

and

nom 1pl

when conj

dat refl clt

have 1pl pres I

2 (a) [0:06] we take and slaughter a lamb or whatever we’ve slaughtered,

take 1pl pres I

and

dat refl clt

slaughter 1pl pres P

lamb sg n

interr clt

fut

3sg pres cop clt

rel

1pl pres aux clt

dat refl clt

slaughter pl L.part P

заколя

3 (a) [0:11] then we’ll [also] slaughter hens. For instance pork is prepared

hen pl f

fut

slaughter 1pl pres P

hes

with

interr

pig sg n adj

apart adv

fut

acc refl clt

cook 3sg pres P

4 (a) [0:17] its own way, and so is chicken. We all make two [meat] dishes each.

chicken sg n def adj

apart adv

fut

acc refl clt

cook 3sg pres P

two f

dish pl f

all adv

dat refl clt

make 1pl pres I

5 (GK) Hm.

xəm

bkch

6 (RA) And that’s how you did it.

and

thus adv

2pl pres aux clt

make pl L.part I

7 (a) [0:22] And that’s how we did it, and now in the autumn

and

thus adv

1pl pres aux clt

make pl L.part I

and

now adv

what rel

3sg pres cop clt

autumn sg f

8 (a) [0:26] we make whatever there is, either pickled or some other thing,

what rel

pres exist

such sg n adj

acc refl clt

[...]

make 3sg pres I

either

pickle

one sg n adj

other sg n adj

9 (a) [0:32] It’s been two or three years now, you see, we’ve had a serious drought here.

and

become 3sg aor P

two f

three

year pl f

and

mean 3sg pres I

nom 1pl

much adv

drought sg f

here adv

10 (a) [0:37] Just look at my tomatoes, what they’ve already become:

and

ost

look 2pl pres P

dat 1sg clt

tomato pl m def

already adv

what sg n interr

become 3pl aor P

11 (a) [0:41] they’re [completely] withered. So I abandoned them and let the hens at them,

wither 3pl aor P

and

nom 1sg

acc 3pl clt

abandon 1sg aor P

and

hen pl f def

acc 3pl clt

allow 1sg pres I

12 (a) [0:44] and they graze [there] at the end. [laughter] What can you do [with] them?

and

nom 3pl

eat 3pl pres I

from

end sg m def

what sg n interr

comp

acc 3pl clt

do 2sg pres I

13 (a) [0:49] It’s been a really bad drought, two or three years already,

much adv

much adv

drought sg f

become 3sg aor P

two f

three

year pl f

already adv

14 (a) [0:52] but today, especially this year that I’ve lived through

but

and

today adv

especially adv

this sg f adj

year sg f

rel

acc f 3sg clt

survive 1sg aor P

15 (GK) [It has been] a terrible, terrible drought.

much adv

much adv

drought sg f

16 (GK) Earlier on was there much water in the village?

and

before adv

L.part exist

interr clt

3sg pres aux clt

village sg n

village sg n

sg n def

water sg f

much adv

17 (a) [1:00] There was, there was.

exist impf

exist impf

18 (GK) Yes?

dà

yes

да

19 (a) [1:02] We got [it from] – there’s a reservoir here near us. Up above,

nom 1pl

take 1pl aor P

here adv

3sg pres cop clt

reservoir sg m def

acc 1pl

above adv

20 (GK) Uh huh.

əxə

bkch

аха

21 (a) [1:06] Didn’t you notice it? That’s the reservoir, right over here – near us.

and

neg

interr clt

acc m 3sg clt

notice 2sg aor P

this sg n adj

3sg pres cop clt

reservoir sg m def

ost

here adv

acc 1pl

22 (a) [1:11] We get water from here. Water is scattered, even one in the other neighborhood.

nom 1pl

from

here adv

take 1pl pres I

water sg f

and

scatter sg f P.part P

and

even adv

beyond sg f def adj

neighborhood sg f

23 (a) [1:15] But we have another water source here across the summit, over there on the other side,

but

one sg m adj

one sg f adj

water sg f

and

have 1pl pres I

here adv

across

summit sg m def

and

even adv

onward adv

24 (a) [1:20] It’s very far, to walk [all the way] to that water

nom n 3sg

3sg pres cop clt

very adv

far adv

that sg f adj

water sg f

and

comp

walk 1sg pres I

there adv

25 (GK) But [to] it –

but

and

acc n 3sg

26 (a) [1:24] They couldn’t get it all, so we have a lot of trouble [to get] water.

neg

can 3pl aor I

comp

acc f 3sg clt

grasp 3pl pres P

all sg f def adj

and

much adv

get.in.trouble 1pl pres I

for

water sg f

27 (a) [1:30] And now the one who’s [responsible] for the water

and

now adv

nom m 3sg

hes

who sg m rel adj

3sg pres cop clt

hes

water sg f def

28 (a) [1:35] opens [the sources] every morning and closes them in the evening.

each sg f adj

morning sg f

acc 3pl clt

open 3sg pres I

evening sg f

acc 3pl clt

close 3sg pres I

29 (GK) What [is it that he opens and closes]?

koè

which sg n interr adj

кой

30 (a) [1:41] And for two hours he kept it [open], kept it [open] two hours,

and

nom m 3sg

two m

hour ct m

acc 3pl clt

3sg pres aux clt

keep sg m L.part I

keep sg m L.part I

already adv

two m

hour ct m

31 (a) [1:44] or maybe [only] one. We have a specific person for the wells,

interr clt

one sg m adj

disc

have 1pl pres I

dat refl clt

specific sg m adj

person sg m

for

wells pl f def

32 (GK) But even –

but

and

33 (a) [1:49] to release the water flow and shut it off.

comp

acc 3pl clt

release 3sg pres I

comp

acc 3pl clt

stop 3sg pres I

34 (GK) So in the old days did houses used to have

and

one sg n adj

time sg n

L.part exist

interr clt

L.part exist

interr clt

3sg pres aux clt

disc

house pl f def

35 (GK) water – wells, or –

water sg f

well pl f

36 (a) [1:54] No.

n’e

не

37 (GK) What?

à

disc

38 (a) [1:55] No.

n’e

не

39 (GK) [So] what was it like?

how interr

3sg pres aux clt

sg n L.part cop

40 (a) [1:57] We have a well in the dry riverbed, down below here near us

there adv

riverbed sg n def

have 1pl pres I

nom 1pl

have 1pl pres I

well sg f

hes

here adv

acc 1pl

below adv

41 (a) [2:02] is the riverbed. There’s only one garden [between us] and the riverbed.

already adv

3sg pres cop clt

riverbed sg n

and

one sg f adj

garden sg f

only adv

3sg pres cop clt

riverbed sg n pres cop clt

дере

42 (a) [2:07] And there we had – down here there was –

and

there adv

[...]

have 1pl impf I

disc

and

here adv

below adv

even adv

exist impf

43 (a) [2:11] a little further down from us, there was a well with good water.

from

acc 1pl

little adv

below adv

exist impf

and

well sg f

with

nice sg f adj

water sg f

44 (a) [2:16] and I knew [my job] – to carry pails on my shoulder, morning, evening and midday.

and

nom 1sg

dat refl clt

know 1sg impf I

kettle pl m def

shoulder sg n def

morning sg f

evening sg f

midday sg n

carry 1sg pres I

45 (a) [2:21] But for good water [that one] there was closer to me

but

for

nice sg f adj

water sg f

there adv

dat 1sg clt

3sg pres cop clt

near adv

46 (a) [2:23] because we’re right here: two or three houses over is

because conj

nom 1pl

1pl pres cop clt

ost

here adv

across

two f

three

house pl f

3sg pres cop clt

47 (a) [2:24] my place of birth, you know?

birth sg n def adj

dat 1sg clt

place sg n

disc

48 (GK) Yes, the house where you were born.

yes

birth sg f def adj

house sg f

49 (a) [2:30] That one is closer, and we get water from there. There is a well, but

and

there adv

3sg pres cop clt

near adv

there adv

dat refl clt

carry 1pl pres I

pres exist

well sg f

but

50 (a) [2:35] [the water] isn’t as tasty. It’s OK for washing, for watering, for doing laundry,

neg

3sg pres cop clt

tasty sg f adj

thus adv

for

wash vbl.n I

for

water vbl.n I

for

launder vbl.n I

51 (a) [2:39] for everything – but it all had to be carried on the back.

for

everything sg n adj

but

back sg m

everything sg n adj

acc refl clt

carry 3sg impf I

52 (GK) How [do you mean], on the back?

disc

how interr

back sg m

53 (a) [2:42] Well, with a yoke, you know! Two kettles! Ah, these kettles –

disc

with

yoke sg f

adrs

two m

kettle ct m

excl

kettle pl m def

nom 3pl

54 (a) [2:48] I don’t know if you’ve seen them even.

neg

know 1sg pres I

see sg m L.part I

interr clt

2sg pres aux clt

acc 3pl clt

even adv

55 (GK) What is it, like some sort of bucket?

what sg n interr

3sg pres cop clt

bucket sg f

something sg n

56 (a) [2:53] Like a bucket, but [made] of copper.

bucket sg f

but

copper sg n adj

57 (GK) Ah, from copper. So that’s why you call them “copper” [kettles].

disc

copper sg n adj

for.that adv

dat m 3sg clt

acc refl clt

call 3sg pres I

copper sg m

58 (a) [2:58] That’s why we call it a copper [kettle].

for.that adv

dat m 3sg clt

acc refl clt

call 3sg pres I

copper sg n adj

59 (GK) And when you take –

əxə̀

disc

аха

and

kə

[…]

and

when conj

take 1pl pres P

60 (a) [3:04] On the yoke – a yoke this size. You put it over your shoulder,

and

yoke sg f

one sg f adj

yoke sg f

ost

so.big sg f adj

put 2sg pres I

shoulder sg n def

61 (a) [3:08] one [kettle] in front, the other in back, and we carry the water on our shoulders.

one sg m adj

forward adv

other sg m adj

behind adv

and

carry 1pl pres I

shoulder sg n

carry 1pl pres I

water sg f def

62 (a) [3:13] And you think that’s easy? We had a river here nearby

and

easy adv

interr clt

3sg pres cop clt

river sg f

have 1pl impf I

here adv

near adv

63 (a) [3:16] because we were there closer to the river, and –

nom 1pl

because conj

there adv

1pl impf cop

near adv

river sg f def

and

64 (GK) Why do you say “we had”? It hasn’t gone and dried up, has it?

but

why interr

call 2sg pres I

have 1pl impf I

comp

neg

3sg pres aux clt

dry sg f L.part P

now adv

65 (a) [3:25] Well, one could say that both the water and the river have dried up.

disc

can pres imprs

acc refl clt

3sg pres P

that conj

water sg f def

and

river sg f def

3sg pres aux clt

dry sg f L.part P

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Kolju Marinovo 5

1 (a) [0:01] Well, at village celebrations some slaughter their own way but when we have [it],

2 (a) [0:06] we take and slaughter a lamb or whatever we’ve slaughtered,

3 (a) [0:11] then we’ll [also] slaughter hens. For instance pork is prepared

4 (a) [0:17] its own way, and so is chicken. We all make two [meat] dishes each.

5 (GK) Hm.

6 (RA) And that’s how you did it.

7 (a) [0:22] And that’s how we did it, and now in the autumn

8 (a) [0:26] we make whatever there is, either pickled or some other thing,

9 (a) [0:32] It’s been two or three years now, you see, we’ve had a serious drought here.

10 (a) [0:37] Just look at my tomatoes, what they’ve already become:

11 (a) [0:41] they’re [completely] withered. So I abandoned them and let the hens at them,

12 (a) [0:44] and they graze [there] at the end. [laughter] What can you do [with] them?

13 (a) [0:49] It’s been a really bad drought, two or three years already,

14 (a) [0:52] but today, especially this year that I’ve lived through

15 (GK) [It has been] a terrible, terrible drought.

16 (GK) Earlier on was there much water in the village?

17 (a) [1:00] There was, there was.

18 (GK) Yes?

19 (a) [1:02] We got [it from] – there’s a reservoir here near us. Up above,

20 (GK) Uh huh.

21 (a) [1:06] Didn’t you notice it? That’s the reservoir, right over here – near us.

22 (a) [1:11] We get water from here. Water is scattered, even one in the other neighborhood.

23 (a) [1:15] But we have another water source here across the summit, over there on the other side,

24 (a) [1:20] It’s very far, to walk [all the way] to that water

25 (GK) But [to] it –

26 (a) [1:24] They couldn’t get it all, so we have a lot of trouble [to get] water.

27 (a) [1:30] And now the one who’s [responsible] for the water

28 (a) [1:35] opens [the sources] every morning and closes them in the evening.

29 (GK) What [is it that he opens and closes]?

30 (a) [1:41] And for two hours he kept it [open], kept it [open] two hours,

31 (a) [1:44] or maybe [only] one. We have a specific person for the wells,

32 (GK) But even –

33 (a) [1:49] to release the water flow and shut it off.

34 (GK) So in the old days did houses used to have

35 (GK) water – wells, or –

36 (a) [1:54] No.

37 (GK) What?

38 (a) [1:55] No.

39 (GK) [So] what was it like?

40 (a) [1:57] We have a well in the dry riverbed, down below here near us

41 (a) [2:02] is the riverbed. There’s only one garden [between us] and the riverbed.

42 (a) [2:07] And there we had – down here there was –

43 (a) [2:11] a little further down from us, there was a well with good water.

44 (a) [2:16] and I knew [my job] – to carry pails on my shoulder, morning, evening and midday.

45 (a) [2:21] But for good water [that one] there was closer to me

46 (a) [2:23] because we’re right here: two or three houses over is

47 (a) [2:24] my place of birth, you know?

48 (GK) Yes, the house where you were born.

49 (a) [2:30] That one is closer, and we get water from there. There is a well, but

50 (a) [2:35] [the water] isn’t as tasty. It’s OK for washing, for watering, for doing laundry,

51 (a) [2:39] for everything – but it all had to be carried on the back.

52 (GK) How [do you mean], on the back?

53 (a) [2:42] Well, with a yoke, you know! Two kettles! Ah, these kettles –

54 (a) [2:48] I don’t know if you’ve seen them even.

55 (GK) What is it, like some sort of bucket?

56 (a) [2:53] Like a bucket, but [made] of copper.

57 (GK) Ah, from copper. So that’s why you call them “copper” [kettles].

58 (a) [2:58] That’s why we call it a copper [kettle].

59 (GK) And when you take –

60 (a) [3:04] On the yoke – a yoke this size. You put it over your shoulder,

61 (a) [3:08] one [kettle] in front, the other in back, and we carry the water on our shoulders.

62 (a) [3:13] And you think that’s easy? We had a river here nearby

63 (a) [3:16] because we were there closer to the river, and –

64 (GK) Why do you say “we had”? It hasn’t gone and dried up, has it?

65 (a) [3:25] Well, one could say that both the water and the river have dried up.

1 (a) [0:01] zə səbòrə n’àkuj gi kòl’ət ə bəškà pək nìj kut si ìməmi

Well, at village celebrations some slaughter their own way but when we have [it],

2 (a) [0:06] zemim tə si zəkòlim jègne li žə i əkòt sme si zəklàli

we take and slaughter a lamb or whatever we’ve slaughtered,

3 (a) [0:11] kukòški žə zəkòlim ə s nəlì svìnsku bəškà šә̥ sə zgòtvi

then we’ll [also] slaughter hens. For instance pork is prepared

4 (a) [0:17] pìleškutu bəškà šә̥ sə zgòtvi pu dv’è màndži s’è si pràim