Šumnatica 3

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1 (VZh) So tell me. Do you know how to make “klin” (banitsa)?

disc

say sg imv P

know 2sg pres I

interr clt

comp

make 2sg pres I

banitsa sg m

2 (b) [0:04] We make that, [yes]. [laughter]

pràime

make 1pl pres I

правя

acc m 3sg clt

той

3 (VZh) Tell [me] how you make “klin”.

say sg imv P

how interr

acc refl clt

make 3sg pres I

banitsa sg m

4 (b) [0:05] Kli– For “klin”, you pour out as much as one or two spoonfuls of rice.

[ … ]

banitsa sg m

fut

pour 2sg pres P

how.much rel med

3sg pres cop clt

one f sg adj

two f

spoonful pl f

rice sg m

5 (b) [0:12] You boil that, and then you – when it cools,

fut

acc m 3sg clt

boil 2sg pres P

and

then med adv

fut

when inter.rel

cool 3sg pres P

6 (b) [0:15] you pour it into either a pan or a pot,

pan sg f def med

interr clt

3sg pres cop clt

pan sg f def med

interr clt

fut

acc m 3sg clt

pour 2sg pres P

7 (b) [0:18] and when it cools, you break eggs into it. Then you roll the pastry sheets out

and

then med adv

fut

cool 3sg pres P

egg pl n

fut

dat m 3sg clt

break 2sg pres P

and

pastry.sheet pl f

fut

roll.out 2sg pres P

8 (VZh) Uh huh.

əmhm

bkch

9 (b) [0:22] and turn it over. And then you put it to bake on the stove.

and

fut

acc m 3sg clt

[...]

turn 2sg pres I

then med adv

comp

acc refl clt

bake 3sg pres P

stove sg f def med

10 (b) [0:26] And that’s “klin”. I roll it –

and

this sg n med adj

3sg pres cop clt

banitsa sg m

roll 1sg pres P

acc m 3sg clt

11 (VZh) It’s on the “soba” (stove) that you put it to bake?

stove sg f def

acc m 3sg clt

put 2sg pres I

comp

acc refl clt

bake 3sg pres I

12 (b) [0:29] On the “soba” (stove), ...

stove sg f def med

13 (VZh) Uh huh.

əmhəm

bkch

14 (b) [0:30] … in a pan.

təvàtə

pan sg f def med

тава

15 (VZh) [But] don’t you put something in it, cheese or –

thing sg n

neg

dat m 3sg clt

interr clt

put 2sg pres I

cheese sg n

comp

16 (b) [0:33] Well, everything! You can put whatever you want into it!

but

everything sg n adj

what indcl rel med

want 2sg pres I

can pres imprs

comp

dat n 3sg clt

put 2sg pres P

adrs

17 (VZh) Uh huh.

əmhəm

bkch

18 (b) [0:35] Whatever you want! You can put anything [into it].

what indcl rel med

want 2sg pres I

adrs

everything sg n adj

acc refl clt

put 3sg pres I

19 (VZh) And what did you make this “klin” with the most often?

with

what sg n interr

acc m 3sg clt

make 2pl impf I

most

much adv

banitsa sg m def

20 (b) [0:40] With rice.

əs

with

urìs

rice sg m

ориз

21 (VZh) With rice.

əs

with

urìs

rice sg m

ориз

22 (d) [0:41] Yes, with rice.

disc

with

rice sg m

rice sg m

23 (VZh) And earlier, when there wasn’t any rice [to be had]?

and

early adv

when conj

impf neg exist

rice sg m

24 (b) [0:46] Ah well [then], with bulghur –

disc

bulghur sg m

25 (VZh) Uh huh

əmhm

bkch

26 (b) [0:48] from wheat. Bulghur. What are you going to do? No wheat even,

from

wheat sg f def med

bulghur sg m

what indcl interr

fut

do 2sg pres I

and

[...]

and

wheat sg f

pres neg exist

27 (b) [0:53] [so you use] whatever you’ve got. [laughter]

for

what sg n interr

dat 2sg clt

3sg pres cop clt

28 (VZh) And how did you make bulghur?

and

bulghur sg m def

how interr

acc m 3sg clt

make 2pl impf I

29 (b) [0:56] [For] bulghur, we take and scald it, we take the wheat and wash it –

bulghur sg m def med

take 1pl pres P

acc m 3sg clt

scald 1pl pres P

acc m 3sg clt

and

take 1pl pres P

wheat sg f def med

wash 1pl pres P

30 (b) [1:00] [in one of] these things [that] hang there at the well –

hang 3pl pres I

one pl adj

well sg f def med

31 (VZh) Mm

bkch

32 (a) [1:02] we wash it so there are no husks left. We wash it and then we put it

wash 1pl pres P

acc m 3sg clt

comp

pres neg exist

impurity sg n

wash 1pl pres P

acc m 3sg clt

and

then med adv

acc m 3sg clt

put 1pl pres P

33 (b) [1:06] into a kettle and boil it. Then we grind it with a hand stone mill.

kettle sg m def

boil 1pl pres P

acc m 3sg clt

and

acc m 3sg clt

grind 1pl pres I

mill sg f def med

34 (b) [1:09] But not all at once! [laughter]

but

nom sg n

whole sg n adj

3sg pres cop clt

neg

35 (VZh) Uh huh

əmhm

bkch

36 (b) [1:11] We don’t cook it all at once. We cook it, but not putting [it in the pot] all at once.

neg

acc m 3sg clt

whole sg n adj

boil 1pl pres I

neg

acc m 3sg clt

do.such 3pl pres I

whole sg n adj

place sg n P.part I

37 (RA) Hm.

bkch

38 (b) [1:15] So we grind it the size of rice grains, we make it smaller. Things like that.

disc

grind 1pl pres P

acc m 3sg clt

rice sg m

acc m 3sg clt

make 1pl pres P

small sg n adj

disc

such pl med adj

thing pl f

39 (VZh) And did you make this thing where you wrap up cabbage leaves?

and

thus disc

make 2pl impf I

interr clt

with

hes

leaf sg n

from

cabbage sg n

comp

acc m 3sg clt

wrap 2sg pres P

40 (b) [1:25] [Yes,] we used to make that.

disc

па

pràeme

make 1pl impf I

правя

41 (VZh) And what’s that called?

how interr

acc refl clt

call 3sg pres I

nom n 3sg

42 (b) [1:26] We make “sarma” (stuffed [cabbage or grape] leaves)

make 1pl pres I

sarma sg f

43 (VZh) Uh huh, with –

əmhəm

disc

sə

with

44 (b) [1:28] Sarma with these leaves – mostly we make it from grape leaves now.

sarma sg f

from

this pl prox adj

leaf pl n

from

most def med adv

from

grape pl m def med

leaf pl n

make 1pl pres I

now adv

45 (VZh) Aha.

əhà

bkch

аха

46 (b) [1:33] From the grape leaves that haven’t been sprayed [yet], the newer ones

from

grape pl m def med

when inter.rel

3pl pres cop clt

neg

spray pl P.part I

with

young pl adj

when inter.rel

3pl pres cop clt

47 (b) [1:37] And when you pick them “young”, you string them like this

when inter.rel

dat refl clt

gather 2sg pres P

young pl adj

comp

acc 3pl clt

string 2sg pres P

then med adv

3pl pres cop clt

48 (b) [1:41] and then you put meat here, you put chunks of meat,

fut

put 2sg pres P

this sg n med adj

hes

meat sg n def dist

meat sg n

chunk pl f

fut

put 2sg pres P

49 (b) [1:46] then you’ll make –

comp

then med adv

fut

acc 3pl clt

make 2sg pres I

50 (VZh) Don’t you grind it? Uh, this – ?

neg

acc m 3sg clt

interr clt

grind 2sg pres I

hes

this sg n adj

51 (b) [1:49] What?

kənà

what indcl interr

кина

52 (VZh) The meat.

mesòto

meat sg n def

месо

53 (b) [1:51] Oh sure! Yes, yes, they do. They do all that.

disc

yes

yes

yes

make 3pl pres I

[ … ]

everything sg n adj

make 3pl pres I

[...]

comp

54 (b) [1:55] When they cut it up small with the machine

when inter.rel

acc m 3sg clt

mince 3pl pres I

acc m 3sg clt

with

machine sg f

55 (VZh) Aha.

ahà

bkch

аха

56 (b) [1:58] Yes [indeed].

dà

yes

да

57 (VZh) And earlier on? There weren’t machines, earlier on.

and

early adv

machine sg f

neg

3sg pres aux clt

sg n L.part

early adv

58 (b) [2:00] Well, we chop it, we chop it and cut it small with a knife

disc

hes

thus med adv

chop 1pl pres P

acc m 3sg clt

chop 1pl pres P

acc m 3sg clt

mince 1pl pres P

acc m 3sg clt

with

knife sg m def med

59 (b) [2:03] What [else] would you do with it? [laughter]

what indcl interr

fut

acc m 3sg clt

do 2sg pres I

60 (VZh) So then –

and

takòva

disc

такъв

61 (RA) [laughter]

[...]

62 (VZh) How do you call it after it’s all chopped up small? How do you call it at that point?

how interr

acc refl clt

say 3sg pres I

nom sg n

after

when conj

acc m 3sg clt

mince 2sg pres P

how interr

acc refl clt

say 3sg pres I

already adv

63 (b) [2:09] “Sazdŭrma” (preserved chopped meat).

[ … ]

[ … ]

meat.preserves sg f

64 (VZh) Aha.

əhɤ̀

bkch

аха

65 (b) [2:12] Uh huh. Not chunks. Don’t you use jars? [Where do you] put [the meat] when

disc

chunk pl f

disc

neg

make 2pl pres I

jar pl m

nom 2pl

when inter.rel

put 2pl pres P

66 (b) [2:16] you slaughter a calf or such? We put it up in jars, in –

some sg n adj

calf sg n

acc n 3sg clt

slaughter 2pl pres P

nom 1pl

acc 3pl clt

make 1pl pres I

jar pl m

67 (VZh) Uh huh.

əmhəm

bkch

68 (b) [2:20] In [these] big jars.

big pl def med adj

jar pl m

69 (VZh) Big [ones].

golèmi

big pl adj

голям

70 (b) [2:22] And we cover them and boil them up. Then we have [these] jars all winter!

and

acc 3pl clt

cover 1pl pres P

boil 1pl pres P

acc 3pl clt

then med adv

whole sg m adj

winter sg m

dat refl clt

have 1pl pres I

jar pl m

71 (VZh) And [did you make] some other sorts of old Rhodope dishes, such as

and

some sg f adj

other sg f adj

such sg f adj

with

such sg f adj

old sg f adj

Rhodope sg f adj

dish sg f

rel

do.such 3sg pres I

72 (VZh) “kurkmach”, did you make that?

thickened.milk sg m

make 2pl impf I

interr clt

73 (b) [2:31] What’s this “kurkmach”? [laughter]

what indcl interr

3sg pres cop clt

this sg n med adj

thickened.milk sg m

74 (VZh) [You make it] from milk, from milk, like –

from

milk sg n

from

milk sg n

75 (RA) [laughter]

[...]

76 (b) [2:35] We make [something] from milk, and – and –

from

milk sg n

make 1pl pres I

hes

77 (VZh) Tell [us] what you make from it.

say sg imv P

what sg n interr

make 2sg pres I

from

acc n 3sg

78 (b) [2:36] We make curds, we make cheese –

curd sg m

make 1pl pres I

cheese sg m

make 1pl pres I

79 (VZh) Ah.

əh

bkch

80 (b) [2:38] We make everything.

everything sg n adj

make 1pl pres I

81 (VZh) How do you make curds?

curd sg m def

how interr

acc refl clt

make 3sg pres I

82 (b) [2:40] [Well, for] curds, you churn up the milk and pour it into a cauldron,

curd sg m def

fut

churn 2sg pres P

milk sg n def med

fut

acc n 3sg clt

pour 2sg pres P

cauldron sg f def med

харкома

83 (b) [2:42] and you boil and it and boil it, and then when it’s done

fut

acc m 3sg clt

boil 2sg pres P

fut

acc m 3sg clt

boil 2sg pres P

and

then med adv

when inter.rel

acc refl clt

boil 3sg pres P

84 (b) [2:44] you strain it into a bag, a clean …

fut

acc m 3sg clt

strain 2sg pres P

one sg m adj

bag sg m

clean sg n adj

85 (VZh) Uh huh.

əmhəm

bkch

86 (b) [2:49] … bag, and you shake it down into a pan, and when it’s all strained,

bag sg n

and

fut

acc m 3sg clt

shake 2sg pres P

pan sg f def med

and

when inter.rel

acc refl clt

strain 3sg pres P

87 (b) [2:51] you eat it. [laughter]

fut

acc m 3sg clt

eat 2sg pres I

88 (a) [2:53] [laughter]

[...]

89 (VZh) Come here, sit down [with us].

disc

come sg imv P

sit sg imv P

90 (b) [2:53] [laughter] We’re conversing a lot, we’re having a lot of conversation.

nom 1pl

much adv

conversation sg m

make 1pl pres I

nom 1pl

much adv

conversation sg m

91 (a) [2:56] Ah, conversation.

excl

make 2pl pres P

conversation sg m

92 (RA) Conversation.

muabèt

conversation sg m

мухабет

93 (b) [2:58] We’re having a lot of conversation. What can you do? That’s life.

much adv

conversation sg m

make 1pl pres I

much adv

what indcl interr

comp

do 1sg pres I

such sg m med adj

3sg pres cop clt

sg m def

94 (GK) I said you should rest a little.

say 1sg aor P

comp

rest 2sg pres P

little adv

95 (b) [3:07] Who?

kòj

which sg m interr

кой

96 (GK) You should rest a bit! [Take] the opportunity.

comp

dat refl clt

rest 2sg pres P

little adv

just adv

97 (b) [3:08] Yes, yes, yes, yes. Well, I rest every day.

yes

yes

yes

yes

nom m 3sg

constantly adv

rest 1sg pres I

98 (RA) [laughter]

[...]

99 (b) [3:11] There isn’t other work. [When] I was young we worked, but now, there’s none.

nom sg n

other sg f adj

work sg f

pres neg exist

young pl adj

when inter.rel

1pl impf cop

work 1pl aor P

but

now adv

pres neg exist

100 (b) [3:14] Now there’s no work [to be done].

now adv

work vbl.n I

pres neg exist

101 (VZh) What sort of work [is there] in the house? In the fields it’s clear – you sow …

house sg f def

what.kind sg f adj

work sg f

have 2sg pres I

field sg f def

clear adv

there adv

sow 2sg pres I

102 (b) [3:19] [Ah,] You’ll –

disc

comp

103 (VZh) … you plow – But what do you do in the house?

plow 2sg pres I

but

at.home adv

what sg n interr

do 2sg pres I

104 (b) [3:21] When you come back [from the field] you have to take care of the cow,

disc

when inter.rel

come 2sg pres P

must pres I imprs

cow sg f def med

comp

visit 2sg pres P

105 (b) [3:23] you have to give the calf [something] to eat, you have to muck out the stable,

must pres I imprs

comp

dat n 3sg clt

give 2sg pres P

calf sg n def med

comp

eat 3sg pres I

must pres I imprs

comp

clean 2sg pres P

stable sg m def med

106 (b) [3:26] you have to cook meals, to go and get bread,

must pres I imprs

comp

cook 2sg pres P

for

eat vbl.n I

comp

go 2sg pres P

bread sg m

comp

take 2sg pres P

107 (b) [3:30] to go – if there isn’t bread, you’ll bake [it].

comp

go 3sg pres P

if conj

not.have 2sg pres I

bread sg m

fut

bake 2sg pres P

108 (a) [3:31] [laughter]

[...]

109 (b) [3:31] That’s how it is for us. That’s what [work] in the house is.

this sg n med adj

dat 1pl clt

3sg pres cop clt

house sg f def med

this sg n med adj

3sg pres cop clt

110 (VZh) Uh huh.

əmhəm

bkch

111 (b) [3:33] You can’t sit down [at all], you [have to] do the laundry –

neg

can 2sg pres I

comp

sit 2sg pres P

comp

wash 2sg pres P

112 (b) [3:35] Ah! There’s lots of work for a woman.

excl

disc

much adv

work sg f

pres exist

for

female sg n def med adj

женски

117 (VZh) And how do you bake bread?

and

bread sg m def

how interr

acc refl clt

bake 3sg pres I

118 (b) [3:41] Well –

əmə

disc

ама

119 (GK) How do you make bread?

how interr

acc refl clt

make 3sg pres I

bread sg m

120 (b) [3:42] In the outdoor oven. What? You don’t know?

hes

oven sg f def med

how interr

disc

neg

не

znàeš

know 2sg pres I

зная

121 (GK) No.

nè

не

122 (a) [3:44] [laughter]

[...]

123 (VZh) We buy it ready-made now.

nom 1pl

buy 1pl pres I

ready sg m adj

now adv

124 (b) [3:46] Well, yes, and we buy it too now.

yes

adrs

disc

and

nom 1pl

buy 1pl pres I

now adv

125 (VZh) [laughter]

[...]

126 (b) [3:48] In the old days we had …

one sg n adj

time sg n

have 1pl pres I

dat refl clt

127 (RA) And in the old days?

and

one sg n adj

time sg n

128 (b) [3:49] … these troughs, we call them bread-troughs. We take –

s’àvi

this.kind pl prox adj

trough pl n

bread.trough pl.t

nom 1pl

acc 3pl clt

call 1pl pres I

129 (VZh) [laughter]

[...]

130 (b) [3:52] We take the bread-troughs, we have these things made like shovels,

bread.trough pl.t

take 1pl pres P

then med adv

have 1pl pres I

dat refl clt

make pl P.part P

thus prox adv

shovel pl f

131 (VZh) Uh huh.

bkch

132 (b) [3:56] You take it like this, and then you wait for it to ferment.

then med adv

fut

take 2sg pres P

and

then adv

fut

wait 2sg pres I

comp

ferment 3sg pres P

133 (b) [4:00] When the bread [dough] ferments – [you wait] until the water ferments enough,

when inter.rel

ferment 3sg pres P

hes

bread sg m def med

until

neg

ferment 3sg pres P

water sg f

134 (VZh) Uh huh.

bkch

135 (b) [4:03] until it ferments enough to be just like yeast.

comp

ferment 3sg pres P

truly adv

yeast sg f

how rel

3sg pres cop clt

136 (a) [4:05] There’s a little oven …

little sg f adj

oven sg f

pres exist

137 (b) [4:06] And then you shove it either into the stove, or the outdoor oven,

and

then med adv

stove sg f def med

interr clt

3sg pres cop clt

oven sg f

interr clt

fut

acc m 3sg clt

shove 2sg pres P

138 (b) [4:10] and that’s it.

and

tvà

this sg n med adj

този

3sg pres cop clt

съм

139 (a) [4:10] … a [home] oven.

p’èčkətə

oven sg f def med

печка

140 (b) [4:11] We were very good [at this], but –

very adv

1pl impf cop

good adv

but

141 (GK) But did you used to bake only one [loaf of] bread at a time?

but

nom 2pl

one sg m adj

bread sg m

only adv

interr clt

bake 2pl impf I

142 (a) [4:14] One at a time.

по

edìn

one sg m adj

един

143 (b) [4:14] One loaf [of bread] at a time, in a very big pan.

one sg m adj

bread sg m

one f sg adj

pan sg f

big sg f adj

144 (a) [4:15] A big one.

big sg f adj

ost

such sg n med adj

145 (VZh) But a big one, you say.

but

big sg f adj

say 2sg pres P

146 (b) [4:17] A big pan – one this big.

disc

big sg f adj

pan sg f

ost

thus prox adv

147 (a) [4:19] And three days later you bake again!

after

three

day ct m

again adv

bake 2sg pres P

148 (b) [4:20] One pan [was enough] for two days. [laughter]

for

two m

day ct m

one f sg adj

pan sg f

149 (a) [4:22] [laughter]

[...]

150 (b) [4:24] Now – now it’s very easy: go and buy bread ready-made!

hes

now adv

now adv

now adv

very adv

easy adv

walk sg imv I

dat refl clt

buy sg imv P

bread sg m

and

ready adv

151 (b) [4:27] We don’t make anything now. We don’t make anything at all.

neg

make 1pl pres I

not.at.all adv

now adv

not.at.all adv

neg

make 1pl pres I

152 (a) [4:29] We buy it now. If you have the money that is.

disc

dat refl clt

buy 1pl pres I

now adv

but

if conj

have 2sg pres I

money pl.t

153 (a) [4:32] If you don’t have money, you [wait and] see [what to do].

if conj

not.have 2sg pres I

money pl.t

comp

see 2sg pres P

154 (b) [4:32] If there’s no [money] you’ll make [your own].

yes

if conj

pres neg exist

fut

make 2sg pres I

155 (VZh) But it’s expensive now.

but

nom m 3sg

and

expensive sg m adj

now adv

156 (b) [4:35] Well – expensive or not, what [can you do?] When there’s bread [you buy it],

disc

expensive sg m adj

not

expensive sg m adj

what indcl interr

when inter.rel

pres exist

bread sg m

157 (b) [4:37] but if they’ve sold out, then we make it.

again adv

comp

3pl pres aux clt

sell pl L.part P

and

comp

да

pràime

make 1pl pres I

правя

158 (a) [4:38] As Granny says, there’ll be money for bread. As for other things –

for

bread sg m

call 3sg pres I

fut

pres exist

money pl.t

grandmother sg f def med

and

and

other sg n def med adj

друг

159 (b) [4:40] There’ll be [enough] for bread.

for

bread sg m

fut

pres exist

160 (a) [4:41] The clothes – we can mend [those].

drɛ̀ətə

clothing sg f def med

can pres imprs

comp

acc n 3sg clt

mend 1pl pres P

161 (b) [4:43] Mend the clothes, and go off and tend to your work.

drɛhàtə

clothing sg f def med

mend sg imv P

acc n 3sg clt

and

walk sg imv I

dat refl clt

look sg imv I

work sg f def med

162 (b) [4:46] But you can’t mend bread. Your stomach tells you –

əmə

but

ама

with

hes

bread sg m def med

neg

acc refl clt

mend 3sg pres I

stomach sg m def med

dat 2sg clt

say 3sg pres I

163 (a) [4:51] [laughter]

[...]

164 (RA) [laughter]

[...]

165 (VZh) [laughter]

[...]

166 (b) [4:53] Onions aren’t enough – onions aren’t enough when you’re hungry.

neg

suffice 3sg pres I

onion pl m

neg

suffice 3sg pres I

with

onion pl m

when inter.rel

dat refl clt

hungry sg m adj

167 (VZh) [laughter]

[...]

168 (b) [4:58] [laughter] Yes – things are like that.

jà

disc

and

such pl med adj

thing pl f

169 (VZh) And do you roast meat on a spit? Did you do that?

and

spit.roast sg f

[…]

make 2pl aor I

interr clt

170 (a) [5:02] Spit roast? What would we do it with? Those who have sheep do it.

spit.roast sg f

from

what indcl interr

comp

make 1pl pres I

who sg m rel

have 3sg pres I

sheep pl f

make 3sg pres I

spit.roast sg f

171 (VZh) [And] in the old days didn’t you have [any]?

time sg n def

not.have 2pl impf I

interr clt

nom 2pl

172 (b) [5:06] Oh no, we didn’t. We’ve never had sheep.

disc

neg

1pl pres aux clt

neg

have pl L.part I

never adv

sheep pl f

173 (b) [5:08] We don’t have goats or sheep. Just one cow [per household] and that’s it.

and

goat pl f

not.have 1pl pres I

and

sheep pl f

one f sg adj

cow sg f

and

this sg n med adj

3sg pres cop clt

174 (GK) One small calf each.

one sg n adj

calf sg n

175 (b) [5:13] One calf each. We slaughter [it], and that’s our food.

one sg n adj

calf sg n

dat refl clt

slaughter 1pl pres I

disc

this sg n med adj

dat 1pl clt

3sg pres cop clt

food sg f def med

dat 1pl

176 (GK) And what did you do with the calf when you slaughtered it?

and

what sg n interr

acc n 3sg clt

do 2pl impf I

calf sg n def

when inter.rel

acc n 3sg clt

slaughter 1pl pres P

177 (b) [5:18] We cut the veal up into pieces and make it into a casserole in the kettle.

calf sg n def med

cut 1pl pres P

acc n 3sg clt

kettle sg m def

casserole sg f

acc n 3sg clt

make 1pl pres P

178 (b) [5:22] We cut it up into small pieces, …

tiny adv

acc n 3sg clt

cut 1pl pres P

179 (a) [5:23] [It gets put] in jars.

burkàne

jar pl m

буркан

180 (b) [5:24] … cook it up like this and shake it out into pans and

and

boil 1pl pres P

acc n 3sg clt

thus med adv

and

acc n 3sg clt

shake 1pl pres P

pan pl f def med

and

181 (b) [5:27] then pour it into jars. Then all winter long we cook with it.

hes

jar pl m

acc n 3sg clt

pour 1pl pres I

and

whole sg f def med

winter sg f

this sg n med adj

cook 1pl pres I

182 (GK) And when there were no jars?

and

when inter.rel

impf neg exist

jar pl m

183 (b) [5:31] When there were no jars [to put it] in, [we keep it in] lard slabs.

when inter.rel

impf neg exist

jar pl m

lard.slab pl f

again adv

184 (a) [5:32] Lard slabs, and then make casseroles [with that] –

lard.slab sg f

then adv

casserole sg f

acc n 3sg clt

make sg imv P

185 (GK) How do you make that?

how interr

acc refl clt

make 3sg pres I

this sg n adj

186 (a) [5:34] but it goes off faster.

fast adv

acc refl clt

spoil 3sg pres I

187 (b) [5:36] But when it isn’t [in jars] –

but

when inter.rel

3sg pres cop clt

neg

188 (a) [5:38] Then [you make] it into a lard slab.

disc

thus med adv

one f sg adj

lard.slab sg f

acc n 3sg clt

189 (b) [5:39] A lard slab, you know. You pour it into the pan and cover it like this

one f sg adj

lard.slab sg f

adrs

pan sg f def med

acc n 3sg clt

pour sg imv P

prox ost

acc refl clt

wrap 3sg pres P

then med adv

190 (b) [5:42] and it keeps for a long time.

sit 3sg pres I

much adv

191 (a) [5:42] [You wait for it] to cool down and settle

comp

cool 3sg pres P

comp

acc refl clt

settle 3sg pres P

192 (b) [5:44] [Yes,] to settle until the tallow congeals.

settle 3sg pres I

acc refl clt

3sg pres I

acc refl clt

193 (a) [5:44] [and to become] an entire lard slab, you see –

whole sg f adj

such sg f med adj

lard.slab sg f

understand 2sg pres I

разбирам

interr clt

ли

194 (VZh) Hm.

həm

bkch

195 (b) [5:46] an entire slab. Slabs [was how] we made them.

whole sg f adj

lard.slab sg f

lard.slab pl f

acc 3pl clt

make 1pl pres I

196 (a) [5:47] and you put it in some sort of basket and then …

and

put 2sg pres P

acc n 3sg clt

some sg f adj

basket sg f

then med adv

and

197 (b) [5:50] It stays in a crate, in a crate and …

sit 3sg pres I

crate sg f

crate sg f

and

198 (a) [5:50] … [it lasts] one or two months at the most, and then goes off.

most

much adv

one sg m adj

two m

month ct m

and

spoil 3sg pres P

acc refl clt

199 (b) [5:55] But it stays longer in jars. Jars [last] a long time.

disc

but

jar pl m def med

sit 3pl pres I

much adv

jar pl m def med

much adv

200 (a) [5:58] [What’s] in jars doesn’t go off.

jar pl m

neg

acc refl clt

spoil 3sg pres I

201 (b) [5:59] [The contents of] jars don’t go off.

jar pl m def med

neg

acc refl clt

spoil 3pl pres I

202 (a) [6:00] A jar will keep [its contents] an entire year.

jar sg m def

whole sg f adj

year sg f

acc n 3sg clt

keep 3sg pres I

203 (VZh) And what do you do with the hide?

and

with

skin sg f def

what sg n interr

acc refl clt

do 3sg pres I

204 (b) [6:02] You can put the hide down [on the floor] for rugs

skin sg f def med

can pres imprs

comp

acc n 3sg clt

for

rug pl f

comp

acc n 3sg clt

put 2sg pres P

205 (b) [6:05] and lie down to sleep on it when – The hide, you know …

comp

lie 2sg pres P

comp

sleep 2sg pres I

when inter.rel

hide sg f def med

adrs

206 (a) [6:07] The hide, you know. The skin.

hide sg f def med

adrs

skin sg f def med

207 (b) [6:08] ... from – from sheep.

from

from

sheep pl def med

208 (VZh) Uh huh.

əmhəm

bkch

209 (b) [6:09] You can shear [the sheep] and make socks,

hes

can 2sg pres I

comp

acc n 3sg clt

shear 2sg pres P

sock pl m

comp

dat refl clt

make 2sg pres P

210 (b) [6:13] and – and spin it.

comp

acc n 3sg clt

[...]

spin 2sg pres P

211 (b) [6:15] It’s used for everything. It’s used for everything.

sìčkunu

everything sg n def dist adj

become 3sg pres I

everything sg n def dist adj

всичко

stànuvə

become 3sg pres I

ставам

212 (GK) So tell [us] about these types of “women’s work”.

jà

disc

comp

tell 2sg pres P

for

this pl adj

female pl def adj

work sg f

213 (b) [6:19] What should I tell [you]?

what indcl interr

comp

say 1sg pres P

214 (GK) About sheep [and] how you get the wool. What do you do?

from

sheep sg f def

wool sg f def

when conj

acc refl clt

take 3sg pres P

what sg n interr

acc refl clt

do 3sg pres I

215 (GK) But [tell us everything], in [the] order [you do it].

but

thus adv

order sg m

216 (b) [6:24] You take the sheep and shear it, and you wash –

disc

take 2sg pres P

hes

fut

shear 2sg pres P

sheep sg f def med

fut

acc n 3sg clt

wash 2sg pres P

217 (GK) How do you wash it?

how interr

acc refl clt

wash 3sg pres I

218 (b) [6:29] Well, with water of course! You wash it to clean the wool

hes

with

water sg f

adrs

fut

acc n 3sg clt

wash 2sg pres P

comp

clean 2sg pres P

wool sg f def med

219 (a) [6:31] to wash …

comp

wash 2sg pres P

220 (b) [6:32] to wash it …

comp

acc n 3sg clt

wash 2sg pres P

221 (a) [6:32] … the wool.

vɤ̀lnətə

wool sg f def med

вълна

222 (b) [6:33] the wool.

vɤ̀lnətə

wool sg f def med

вълна

223 (GK) So that what should come out?

comp

fall 3sg pres P

which sg n interr adj

кой

224 (RA) In the river?

r’àkata

river sg f def

река

interr clt

ли

225 (b) [6:34] The dirt. [You want] the dirt to come out! You wash [it]

šùštetu

impurity sg n def med

шуще

šùštetu

impurity sg n def med

hes

comp

fall 3sg pres P

adrs

comp

wash 2sg pres P

226 (b) [6:37] to make it get nice, [to make it] white.

pretty sg f adj

comp

become 3sg pres P

white sg n adj

227 (GK) For the dirt to come out.

impurity sg n def

comp

fall 3sg pres P

228 (b) [6:39] Yes. And then you take a carder to card it, and after you card it

comp

then med adv

fut

take 2sg pres P

[...]

carder sg m

comp

acc n 3sg clt

card 2sg pres P

when inter.rel

acc n 3sg clt

card 2sg pres P

229 (b) [6:43] you spin it like this, and then you twist the strands like this.

fut

acc n 3sg clt

[...]

spin 2sg pres P

from

here adv

fut

acc n 3sg clt

twist 2sg pres P

fut

acc n 3sg clt

thus med adv

230 (GK) How do you spin? How do you spin?

how interr

acc refl clt

spin 3sg pres I

how interr

acc refl clt

spin 3sg pres I

231 (b) [6:48] With a distaff, of course!

with

distaff sg f

adrs

232 (a) [6:50] A distaff [laughter]

hùrkə

distaff sg f

хурка

233 (b) [6:51] We spin with a distaff and a spindle. That’s right.

distaff sg f

and

spindle sg n

spin 1pl pres P

disc

234 (a) [6:53] A distaff, a distaff. A distaff!

distaff sg f

distaff sg f

distaff sg f

235 (GK) And after you wind it on the spindle, what do you do?

and

after adv

when conj

acc n 3sg clt

wind 2sg pres P

spindle sg n def

what sg n interr

acc n 3sg clt

do 2sg pres I

236 (b) [6:57] You twist the strands, and then you knit it into socks, this or that –

twist 2sg pres P

then med adv

disc

fut

acc n 3sg clt

knit 2sg pres I

sock pl m

this sg n prox adj

that sg n dist adj

237 (b) [7:00] whatever you want, that’s what you’ll do.

what indcl rel med

want 2sg pres I

fut

acc n 3sg clt

do 2sg pres I

238 (GK) And have you worked on the loom?

and

loom sg m

work sg f L.part I

interr clt

2sg pres aux clt

239 (b) [7:03] Oh ho!

òu

excl

240 (a) [7:04] Ohhh, Granny knows [about that]!

ò

excl

bàbətə

grandmother sg f def med

баба

znàe

know 3sg pres I

зная

241 (GK) So that – how did that work?

there adv

how interr

acc refl clt

do.thus 3sg pres I

how interr

acc refl clt

work 3sg impf I

242 (b) [7:07] The loom has – The loom has – it’s set up – there’s a reed comb, and

loom sg m

have 3sg pres I

loom sg m

have 3sg pres I

such sg m prox adj

loom sg m

place sg n P.part P

reed.comb sg m

pres exist

243 (b) [7:10] there’s a heddle. Oh, there’s lots of things. Lots, lots.

heddle pl.t

pres exist

disc

much adv

thing pl f

adrs

much adv

much adv

244 (a) [7:13] [laughter]

[...]

245 (b) [7:15] [laughter] There’s a lot of looms. We weave rugs, we weave everything.

pres exist

much adv

loom pl m

and

this sg n med adj

comp

weave 1pl pres I

nom 1pl

rug pl f

dat refl clt

weave 1pl pres I

everything sg n adj

246 (VZh) Hello.

good sg m adj

day sg m

247 (RA) Hello

good sg m adj

day sg m

248 (GK) Hello.

good sg m adj

day sg m

249 (a) [7:24] These [here] are sisters.

nom 3pl

3pl pres cop clt

sister f pl

then disc

250 (GK) Ah!

ɤ̀

excl

251 (a) [7:26] These two are sisters.

this pl adj

two f def med an.num

3pl pres cop clt

sister f pl

252 (b) [7:26] We’re from the same district.

from

one f sg adj

neighborhood sg f

1pl pres cop clt

253 (c) [7:27] Ah!

è

excl

254 (b) [7:28] From the same district.

from

one f sg adj

neighborhood sg f

255 (VZh) [laughter]

[...]

256 (GK) Which – Which one is older?

kojà

which sg f interr adj

кой

3sg pres cop clt

съм

kojà

which sg f interr adj

3sg pres cop clt

big sg f def adj

257 (b) [7:32] You say now: which one is older. Can you tell?

say sg imv P

nom 2sg

which sg f interr adj

3sg pres cop clt

which sg f interr adj

3sg pres cop clt

big sg f adj

258 (b) [7:34] Can you tell?

can pres imprs

interr clt

comp

say 2sg pres P

259 (GK) Well, how should I know? As if –

disc

where interr

comp

know 1sg pres I

as.if adv

260 (a) [7:36] Aaa ha!

à

excl

261 (b) [7:37] See? I’m the older one but I’m smaller.

see sg imv P

see sg imv P

old sg f adj

disc

1sg pres cop clt

small sg f def med adj

машек

262 (a) [7:38] She’s smaller, but you see, she’s older.

nom f 3sg

small sg f adj

disc

see 2sg pres P

old sg f adj

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Šumnatica 3

1 (VZh) So tell me. Do you know how to make “klin” (banitsa)?

2 (b) [0:04] We make that, [yes]. [laughter]

3 (VZh) Tell [me] how you make “klin”.

4 (b) [0:05] Kli– For “klin”, you pour out as much as one or two spoonfuls of rice.

5 (b) [0:12] You boil that, and then you – when it cools,

6 (b) [0:15] you pour it into either a pan or a pot,

7 (b) [0:18] and when it cools, you break eggs into it. Then you roll the pastry sheets out

8 (VZh) Uh huh.

9 (b) [0:22] and turn it over. And then you put it to bake on the stove.

10 (b) [0:26] And that’s “klin”. I roll it –

11 (VZh) It’s on the “soba” (stove) that you put it to bake?

12 (b) [0:29] On the “soba” (stove), ...

13 (VZh) Uh huh.

14 (b) [0:30] … in a pan.

15 (VZh) [But] don’t you put something in it, cheese or –

16 (b) [0:33] Well, everything! You can put whatever you want into it!

17 (VZh) Uh huh.

18 (b) [0:35] Whatever you want! You can put anything [into it].

19 (VZh) And what did you make this “klin” with the most often?

20 (b) [0:40] With rice.

21 (VZh) With rice.

22 (d) [0:41] Yes, with rice.

23 (VZh) And earlier, when there wasn’t any rice [to be had]?

24 (b) [0:46] Ah well [then], with bulghur –

25 (VZh) Uh huh

26 (b) [0:48] from wheat. Bulghur. What are you going to do? No wheat even,

27 (b) [0:53] [so you use] whatever you’ve got. [laughter]

28 (VZh) And how did you make bulghur?

29 (b) [0:56] [For] bulghur, we take and scald it, we take the wheat and wash it –

30 (b) [1:00] [in one of] these things [that] hang there at the well –

31 (VZh) Mm

32 (a) [1:02] we wash it so there are no husks left. We wash it and then we put it

33 (b) [1:06] into a kettle and boil it. Then we grind it with a hand stone mill.

34 (b) [1:09] But not all at once! [laughter]

35 (VZh) Uh huh

36 (b) [1:11] We don’t cook it all at once. We cook it, but not putting [it in the pot] all at once.

37 (RA) Hm.

38 (b) [1:15] So we grind it the size of rice grains, we make it smaller. Things like that.

39 (VZh) And did you make this thing where you wrap up cabbage leaves?

40 (b) [1:25] [Yes,] we used to make that.

41 (VZh) And what’s that called?

42 (b) [1:26] We make “sarma” (stuffed [cabbage or grape] leaves)

43 (VZh) Uh huh, with –

44 (b) [1:28] Sarma with these leaves – mostly we make it from grape leaves now.

45 (VZh) Aha.

46 (b) [1:33] From the grape leaves that haven’t been sprayed [yet], the newer ones

47 (b) [1:37] And when you pick them “young”, you string them like this

48 (b) [1:41] and then you put meat here, you put chunks of meat,

49 (b) [1:46] then you’ll make –

50 (VZh) Don’t you grind it? Uh, this – ?

51 (b) [1:49] What?

52 (VZh) The meat.

53 (b) [1:51] Oh sure! Yes, yes, they do. They do all that.

54 (b) [1:55] When they cut it up small with the machine

55 (VZh) Aha.

56 (b) [1:58] Yes [indeed].

57 (VZh) And earlier on? There weren’t machines, earlier on.

58 (b) [2:00] Well, we chop it, we chop it and cut it small with a knife

59 (b) [2:03] What [else] would you do with it? [laughter]

60 (VZh) So then –

61 (RA) [laughter]

62 (VZh) How do you call it after it’s all chopped up small? How do you call it at that point?

63 (b) [2:09] “Sazdŭrma” (preserved chopped meat).

64 (VZh) Aha.

65 (b) [2:12] Uh huh. Not chunks. Don’t you use jars? [Where do you] put [the meat] when

66 (b) [2:16] you slaughter a calf or such? We put it up in jars, in –

67 (VZh) Uh huh.

68 (b) [2:20] In [these] big jars.